Honda Recall - 3.5L main bearing problems 1

[drwebb]

So Honda is having trouble with their V6 main bearings: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/business/honda-engine-recall/index.html

Not a good look such a basic component has a defect coming from an OEM that leans into their engine durability prowess (or at least used to).

 

[mfgenggear]

willis cj2a

 

[TugboatEng]

If you do 200k miles in one of those you'll never want to drive again.

 

[mfgenggear]

If you do 200k miles in one of those you'll never want to drive again.

Lol wuss

 

[TugboatEng]

I only drove my first car with AC in 2019 because I couldn't ride my motorcycle after hand surgery.

If you're going to drive an older car/truck, the Quadrajet carburetors were actually very good.

Motorcycle with carburetors are a pain.

My daily is a Lexus IS250. I do have a carbureted motorcycle at the moment and I have a Chevy IDI diesel truck for fun.

 

[BrianPetersen]

Low mileage creampuffs at a collector car auction aren't representative of cars that see daily use in the hands of everybody.

 

[Lou Scannon]

I once purchased a replacement dash pad over ebay. The top was intact and pristine in the photos and when I received it. But the jerk selling it, when he removed it or packed it, destroyed a lot of the important structure underneath, so I returned it for a refund.

 

[mfgenggear]

Low mileage creampuffs at a collector car auction aren't representative of cars that see daily use in the hands of everybody.

It was a joke

 

[mfgenggear]

Fact is its an 80 year old vehicle. Simple, tough little vehicle. And it gets used. It's only purpose is off road. It does not get stuck. It doesn't break down. And it's for off road recreation.
Sorry if you all dont agree. It's simple to maintain
It was designed for GI in world War 2.
I don't care if it's not original components.
I could care less. If it don't fit your goat. O well.
What matters I like it.

 

[CWB1]

Here in the rust belt, 20+ years ago the death of vehicles was split pretty evenly between blown head gaskets, automatic transmissions, clutches, or rust. Today, unless the vehicle's been severely abused its overwhelmingly rust.

 

[SwinnyGG]

Fact is its an 80 year old vehicle. Simple, tough little vehicle. And it gets used. It's only purpose is off road. It does not get stuck. It doesn't break down. And it's for off road recreation.
Sorry if you all dont agree. It's simple to maintain
It was designed for GI in world War 2.
I don't care if it's not original components.
I could care less. If it don't fit your goat. O well.
What matters I like it.

Dude no one said anything about your jeep. This thread isn't about your jeep, at all.

If you're still trying to imply that your jeep and the fact that it runs has anything to do with what this thread is about you're deluded.

 

[mfgenggear]

What ever

 

[mfgenggear]

My point is because of the fuel economy push automobile manufactures are pushing the limits of making vehicles lighter , more power, (hp) , more fuel efficient. And way more complicated. Willis is an antique. Right
But it is simple. More complicated mean more possible failures. I was watching a video on piston rings. Are getting thinner, less friction. For fuel efficiency. How ever will wear out faster. Summation by an other engineering authors is he right?
How many cycles does a new vehical last.
And why. More plastic, aluminum, and belt systems. Attacking me doesn't change that.
New vehicalscare a pos. They don't last.
Are engineered that way. So customer have to buy a new vehical more often.

 

[XR250]

My point is because of the fuel economy push automobile manufactures are pushing the limits of making vehicles lighter , more power, (hp) , more fuel efficient. And way more complicated. Willis is an antique. Right
But it is simple. More complicated mean more possible failures. I was watching a video on piston rings. Are getting thinner, less friction. For fuel efficiency. How ever will wear out faster. Summation by an other engineering authors is he right?
How many cycles does a new vehical last.
And why. More plastic, aluminum, and belt systems. Attacking me doesn't change that.
New vehicalscare a pos. They don't last.
Are engineered that way. So customer have to buy a new vehical more often.

What is interesting to me is how many control modules a modern vehicle has to perform basic functions that used to be either hard wired or controlled by the main ECU. I suppose once CANBUS became popular it is easy to do that but it still can make diagnosis more complicated than many "parts cannon" techs are capable of.

 

[mfgenggear]

What is the recall on the Honda 3.5 liter V6?


A similar issue led to a recall on these same five models in November 2023—with slightly different model years. It was found that the connecting rod bearings could wear prematurely and become damaged due to a manufacturing defect on the crankshaft, possibly causing the engine to fail.Nov 12, 2024

 

[SwinnyGG]

No one is attacking you.

It's not personal. You're just rambling about something completely unrelated to this thread, and making bold claims that are demonstrably untrue.

 

[mfgenggear]

https://www.caranddriver.com/recalls/

 

[BrianPetersen]

I was watching a video on piston rings. Are getting thinner, less friction. For fuel efficiency. How ever will wear out faster. Summation by an other engineering authors is he right?

When is the last time you've seen something driving down the road belching clouds of blue smoke from burnt oil behind it?

That used to happen all the time. Now, the rare time you see this, it's almost always a historic vehicle (or something that someone has modified, thus losing the OEM reliability).

You can smell historic vehicles from behind nowadays - whether it's the half-burnt oil or the unburnt fuel from too-rich carburetion or weak ignition. That's because they stand out, because modern vehicles smell like nothing. In the so-called good old days, ALL the cars on the road smelled like that! We were breathing all that crap ...

Manufacturing tolerances have gotten better. Surface machining and measurement and quality standards have gotten better. Materials have gotten better. Lubricants have gotten enormously better. Fuel delivery has gotten better (too lean or too rich, due to carburetion being never quite right, both can cause cylinder-wear problems).

YES, some new problems have cropped up. Direct-injection has led to intake-valve-deposit problems. Some emission control systems have had unintended consequences.

But still ... I'd rather breathe the air in big cities now, than the way it was in the 1970s, and that's despite there being more traffic on the roads now than there was then.

We are not going back to 1960s technologies.

 

[mfgenggear]

Brian you got me, i can't argue there.
but the other factor is the fuel as well was very bad. it has many chemicals and lead.
the oil corporations squash alternative fuels. but that's an other story. for an other day.

I do like the advancement of technology.
it's not all bad. for example fly by wire, computer controlled. B1 bomber would not fly with out it. I have to undig my heels and my ego. I guess I been quality conscious.
for example my issues with Ford. an other example my RV thor vegas with Ford E350
v10, engine runs well, except the shifter cable was installed next to the exhaust manifold.
heat destroyed it at 27k miles. ridicules.
dealer fixed it now doesn't shift right.
my beef is not with the technology it's their dam quality control. I don't blame the engineers, or the techs. it's the bean counters. same is happening with Boeing.
bean counters again. well I guess I irritated
a few folks which was not my intention.
so I am done , ready to move on.

 

[enginesrus]

Name them

And what does that get me? I will to the proper outfits.



Topic of wet belts and lasting. Why not go to the ones that are in the trenches dealing with replacing them, and way before they are scheduled to need it.
I enjoy the videos of all the chunks of wet belts ending up in the oil pick up screens.

 

[SwinnyGG]

And what does that get me? I will to the proper outfits.

So you have nothing. Got it.