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Use of ties & vertical rebar reinforcement to help with Concrete breakout strength of shear lug

oengineer

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I have a shear lug/key that I am working on designing using Hilti Profis for a concrete pedestal. However, Profis is telling me that the shear lug is failing in concrete break out strength. My pedestal is 44"x44" & 40" tall, with (28)-#8 vertical rebars (see images). The tie reinf. is also shown in the images.

My shear forces acting on the pedestal are the following: Horizontal load on Pedestal (Hx) = 143.8 kips & Horizontal load on Pedestal (Hz) = 225.6 kips

If the pedestal itself has been designed to resist the shear forces based on the pedestal section, concrete strength, vertical rebar & all the ties....would it be safe to consider that the verti. reinf. & ties would be adequate to prevent concrete break out for the shear lug/key?


Suggestions/comments are appreciated.


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I dont think it's enough to stay the pedestal is strong enough to resist the total shear, otherwise you could end up with some strange designs with the shear lug less than 2 inches from the edge etc.

Check whatever code/recommended practice you are following to see if there is a comment on concrete breakout check not being required/a valid failure mode if correctly placed rebar is present. Many codes do discuss the effect of correctly placed rebar on breakout and your code might give a spacing or other requirement to satisfy that condition. then it might be OK by inspection.

Hilti profis also allows you to add rebar in the model for some situations (and so switches the concrete breakout failure mode check to rebar strut and tie checks) , i don't know if profis allows the simultaneous use of a shear lug and explicit rebar. If it doesnt then it's likely an engine limitation rather than a design limitation.


Hilti presentation on profis rebar checks

 
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