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Showing hidden components in Section Cut View

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NutAce

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Hi All.

I'm having the following issue.
I have placed a section cut from an assembly on my drawing and in that view I have set a component (Pinkish Color) to Non Sectioned. (See attached image)
The component in question has been mounted with an array of bolts. These bolts I want to show in the section cut as well.
But because they are hidden by the section cut itself, I cannot make them visible again.

Does anyone know of a workaround? Or am I looking at an ER?

Ronald van den Broek
Mechanical Engineer
Cad Environment Coordinator
Wärtsilä, Propulsion Services
NX8.5.3 / TC9.1.2
HPZ420 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60GHz, 32 Gb Win7 64B
Nvidea Quadro4000 2048MB DDR5

 
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Even though the bolts have been removed as a result of the Section-cut, they should still be available for selection in the Assembly Navigator when you edit the Section-cut excluding additional Components from the 'cut'.

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Hi John.

Tried that, but with no success. The components which are on the "other side" of the section line (not in view Direction) I cannot make visible.

Ronald van den Broek
Mechanical Engineer
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Wärtsilä, Propulsion Services
NX8.5.3 / TC9.1.2
HPZ420 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60GHz, 32 Gb Win7 64B
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Hi John...

I created a small movie (attached) with an example showing what I mean...

Ronald van den Broek
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Wärtsilä, Propulsion Services
NX8.5.3 / TC9.1.2
HPZ420 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60GHz, 32 Gb Win7 64B
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 http://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=2091e2d0-ec90-4c77-ba34-b5908736cac5&file=Components_Hidden_By_Section_Cut.wmv
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Could you upload the drawing file and the components?

John R. Baker, P.E.
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Cowski said:
Sorry, meant background and foreground options turned on...
Click to expand...

Yes...both options were set.

@John
I added the assembly. Drawing is parrent.


Ronald van den Broek
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Wärtsilä, Propulsion Services
NX8.5.3 / TC9.1.2
HPZ420 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60GHz, 32 Gb Win7 64B
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It's still not clear exactly what it is that you're attempting to do. Could you provide some sort of idea (picture) of what the finished view should look like?

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Hi Ronald,
Sorry i may be missing your point but it does not seems like a bug to me. I checked it in NX9 and the result is same. I cannot control the visibility of components in a section view using SHOW COMPONENTS IN VIEW and even if it should have...i think these should be only those which are originally shown in the section (since the four screws were not a part of the section view so they will not appear after making the section view non-sectioned).
The option of applying NON-SECTIONED status to components in a section view ideally should not be applied to every component otherwise i would have used a simple projected view even.
Do let me know if i am wrong.
Best Regards
Kapil Sharma
 
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kapmnit123 said:
Sorry i may be missing your point but it does not seems like a bug to me.
Click to expand...

I never stated it was a bug. I was just wondering if this might be worth an Enhancement Request. or if there is a workaround.

Attached picture might make it a bit easier to understand.

On the left:
A section cut is made as I want to show on the drawing. Components nrs 1,2 and 3 are sectioned.

On the right:
Component nr 2 is made non sectioned. The view will only show the bolts which were part of the section view. The other ones in the array are hidden. I want to show these in this view as well. As I am now showing component nr 2 as a whole I also want to see all bolts which are used to mount this.

The movie example, I attached earlier was just to show the procedure I followed. I created another small assembly to make it easier to show.
It isn't the intention to create a section view first and then make ALL components non sectioned again.

Ronald van den Broek
Mechanical Engineer
Cad Environment Coordinator
Wärtsilä, Propulsion Services
NX8.5.3 / TC9.1.2
HPZ420 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60GHz, 32 Gb Win7 64B
Nvidea Quadro4000 2048MB DDR5

 
 http://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=23e9f8c3-3538-41e3-be7b-858a5d65b540&file=Components_hidden_by_section_cut.jpg
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Thanks for the information Ronald,
I guess since the bolt themselves never got physically sectioned so probably that is the reason why their visibility is not controled .But I surely get your point and as of now I might have considered using a PMI section view for getting this result.(off course depending on PMI license availability.)
But still let us wait for some expert comment or suggestion on this.
Have a good day.
Best Regards
Kapil
 
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Yes, I suspect that Kapil is correct, about both the fact that since the bolts were not actually being sectioned that the 'No Section' ststus does not apply, and that this can probable be better accomplished using PMI and then adding the PMI view to the Drawing.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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Yes, I suspect that Kapil is correct, about both the fact that since the bolts were not actually being sectioned that the 'No Section' ststus does not apply, and that this can probable be better accomplished using PMI and then adding the PMI view to the Drawing.

The issue is not that the bolts aren't sectioned. I am not trying to add a non section status to the bolts( they already had that status from the beginning) .... The issue is that because component 2 was sectioned, the Bolts which were in the area removed by the cut I am not able to bring back when applying the non sectioned status to component2...

Having to buy a license to be able to use PMI is a bit overdone in my opinion...


Ronald van den Broek
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Cad Environment Coordinator
Wärtsilä, Propulsion Services
NX8.5.3 / TC9.1.2
HPZ420 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60GHz, 32 Gb Win7 64B
Nvidea Quadro4000 2048MB DDR5

 
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