Delivery of Shop drawings 3

[mlevario99]

I have a question, when the shop drawings arrive at the architect office from the general contractor, who is responsible for getting those shop drawings to the structural engineer, is it the architect responsability to send them to our office or do we need to go get them.

Thanks for your comments.

 

[civilperson]

Have the general send a non-official set directly to your office to accelerate the review process. (then follow the transmittal process from the general -architect/engineer/architect/general/subcontractor).

 

[cvg]

I would hope that the archie is competent enough to forward them to the appropriate reviewer.

 

[mlevario99]

The reason that I ask, is that we have work with an architect for a few years now, but every time there is a structural submittal they just call and tell us that there is a submittal for us, but they do not deliver the submittal, they want us to go pick it up. And if we do not pick it up like in the next couple of days then they start calling and getting upset for not picking up the submittal.

 

[JedClampett]

Pick it up and charge them for the time. Make sure the charge is seperated out.

 

[JAE]

The Architect is your client.

With that in mind - what is the good business practice to follow?

Either talk to them about it or include it in your fees.

 

[jike]

Most everything we get today is electronic. Is it possible to require electronic submittals where you get a copy. This speeds up the whole review process.

 

[cvg]

send a courier to pick it up and bill them with 10% markup on the delivery charge.

 

[BAretired]

When you have reviewed the shop drawings, call the architect and tell them they are ready for him to pick them up.

 

[RARWOOD]

IMHO the specifications should cover how shop drawings are handled. I've dealt with engineers who refused to approve shop drawings, even though the specifications rerquired them to do so. I've dealt with engineers who take 15 working days to return shops. That is Ok if it is written in the specs. However when its not and a job is a fast track project it really slows down delevery when the engineer takes three weeks to return the drawing.

However I think JAE is right. If they were my client I would ethier have some one pick them up or request that the Arch. courier them to me at my expense.

 

[rday]

If the arch is the prime professional he should get them to you. He has a responsibility to his client to coordinate submittals and responses.

That said if he is refusing, you should arrange to get them and bill the project.

 

[ChipB]

Hmmmm. While it may be frustrating to you, I am in complete agreement with JAE.

In addition to them being your client, this is your last opportunity to review the design and correct any potential errors, which, protects your license. You are also getting paid (or should be) to review them. How awesome is that? Getting paid to review your own work. In my limited experience (15 yrs), I can't tell you the number of times I've found an interference, discrepancy, etc. while checking shop drawings. Thus, either protecting me or my boss from no telling what, and my company from backcharges.

 

[Einsteim]

It is the engineers responsibility to review any and all structural related shop drawings/submittals. How they are delivered and in what time span you complete the review is really job and client specific. If it is a client you wish to keep, you should pick the drawings up this time and include such travel and time expense in your next proposal with said client.