China Eastern Airlines flight MU5735 737-800 Crash 17

[Eufalconimorph]

Avherald.

Reuters.

Dash cam footage showing crash angle.

Video of security camera video, straight on (angle of descent looks steeper than reality).

 

[LittleInch]

I haven't looked at the maps yet, but this could easily be a result of what seems to be an attempt at a high speed pull up at 8-10,000 ft. Something getting ripped off then if its small could easily be 10km from the crash site and not the initiating event.

I suspect nothing will be clear until they find the FDR and hopefully it spills out some information.

But the pilot and co pilot are very experienced so it would be difficult to think they couldn't work out something between them if it wasn't an equipment failure / malfunction.

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[RedSnake]

Hmm not sure it does.. just as an example.
He looses the elevator funktion the plane dives then he can only use the horizontal stabilizer to regulate the pitch when he comes out of the dive, doing it to abruptly can brake things off.

What I mean is that the problem started at 29 000 feet and things can fly a long way if dropped high enough especially if it is wing shaped.

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[Debirlfan]

The real question - is that piece the cause or an effect? And will they find more parts?

 

[Sym P. le]

10 km is the lowest point in the flight path prior to the slight recovery. Still no indication though of whether structural issues caused the decent or just compounded the problem. It will make the search for distant broken pieces more intense.

The purple line represents 10km from impact. The red ground path is raised to the elevation of the last data point.

 

[dik]

as a backup... a tablet with the hot links would be a lot faster.

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[dik]

Could it have fallen off during the decent?

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[RedSnake]

Yes it defiantly could or at least when braking the decent staring going up again.

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[Alistair_Heaton]

Got the FDR now.

 

[dik]

Great... how long does it take to review this device? a week or two? assuming the data is good.

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[IRstuff]

That'll depend on the degree of damage to the FDR. If it were undamaged, they'd have preliminary results within a day or two.

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[Tomfh]

Why don’t they have multiple FDR and CVR in different parts of the plane to increase the chance of finding a good one in the event of a serious crash? Is it simply cost?

 

[1503-44]

I saw that the new ones can supposedly survive 1000 G impact. 100% solid state. I would also imagine that the odds of finding 1 of 2 is not much lower than 2 of 2, at least in cases where the plane can be found at all.

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[Alistair_Heaton]

A DFDR must obviously have a high degree of ‘crashworthiness.’ The first units were required to withstand a momentary shock force of 1-000gs- the latest test standards now call for a test to 3-400gs for a duration of 6.5 milliseconds. The units also have to withstand a static crushing force at all of its six axis points of an applied load force of 5-000lbs for 5 minutes on each axis. Third- it must withstand a 500lbs piercing force test conducted by dropping it onto a ¼ inch steel pin from 10 feet. Lastly it must withstand a 1-100°C fire test for 60 minutes- and a 260°C oven test for 10 hours.

It is also required that these units are mounted within the tail area of an aircraft- away from the potential crushing force of any engines mounted nearby. The DFDR must be watertight to a depth of 20-000 feet in sea water- and survive at this depth for 30 days - and it must be fitted with an underwater locator beacon which will act like a sonar transmitter- by ‘pinging’ a signal through the medium of water that it might be laying in.

here you go if your interested

 

[RedSnake]

It sounds like it must have the shape of an egg then suspended inside another compartment shaped like an egg filled with cornstarch batter and a Nokia shark fen antenna IP69K with a sonar.

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[1503-44]

No, it's like a 10 Russian doll construction.


Maybe
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[dik]

Wouldn't the cornstarch batter transmit the forces to the inner shell?

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[IRstuff]

Word for the day "dilatant" to describe corn starch solutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilatant#Examples,

although, in a sealed volume, the impact (pun intended) might be irrelevant, since the fluid has nowhere to go, and is otherwise incompressible, so force is transmitted, regardless of any shear thickening

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[dik]

Thanks IRS... pretty much what I thought...

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[3Q MACHINING]

It's sad to see people die in the accident, waiting for more truth to solve this problem and stop it happen again.

 

[Sym P. le]

China Eastern flight MU5735: suspected debris found 10km from crash site, search area widened

The location as described by the article is still a bit vague but Google Earth labels an area of Yatang just beyond the 10km mark and there are rice paddies there and at the 10km mark.