Continue to Site

Eng-Tips is the largest engineering community on the Internet

Intelligent Work Forums for Engineering Professionals

  • Congratulations waross on being selected by the Eng-Tips community for having the most helpful posts in the forums last week. Way to Go!

Bearings/Bushing, Dry Film Lubrication, Grooving....

Status
Not open for further replies.

shawnpeter

Mechanical
Jan 15, 2009
49
The current bearing I'm dealing with is produced in house, and is made in a variety of sizes. The bearing is a multiple piece unit which incorporates a bushing, thrust washer, and a ball race (which retains our stationary peice to our peice in motion).

The bushing (kinda a misnomer, we just refer to it as the bushing) is a journal bearing, made from a Beryllium Copper alloy C17200 with about a 41HRc. We press this into the peice in motion with a .003" interference fit. We currently plate the bushing with silver .001" (+/-.0002") thick.

An example size of this bushing is 2.003" OD x 1.875" ID x .625" WIDTH.

What benefits/pitfalls would I have to doing a molybdenum disulfide or a polytetraflouroethylene dry film coating? Any suggestions?

Also, I've been playing around with the idea of adding a spiral groove to the ID of the bushing. Our system is lubricated with a propreitary degassed molybdenum grease.

Thanks!
 
Replies continue below

Recommended for you

What problem are you trying to solve?



Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
 
both coatings can be effective under mixed or boundary lubrication regime. if you are able to achieve fluid film lubrication the coatings will have no effect
 
As romke stated, once the fluid film is established the coating itself it not critical. I expect the coatings to influence performance during startups, shutdowns and dry-running spells. However, you should look into coating breakdown possibility within the range of operating temperatures.

 
my (probably incorrect) concept on adding a spiral groove to the bushing is that if cut and installed in the correct orientation it could be carrying grease upwards to the ball race and other components. yes/no?
 
Hi.

Yes, in a "wet" boundary condition, neither MoS2 nor PTFE will serve you. Both function as dry film lubricants.

What problem are you trying to solve? Have you identified the mode of failure? Friction, itself, is a system-dependent parameter and function of load, velocity, temperature, surface finish, counter-face, material hardness, etc.

Grease tends to cold flow, displace under contact stress. To try and direct the grease, through spiral, at the right rate seems implausible. Not to mention depletion of lubricant.

You may want to see this link:

<a href=" Low Friction Coatings</a>


William Gunnar
 
I think spiral grooves are sometimes used in bearings and bushings as "dirt grooves" to allow dirt particles to escape the clearance before doing too much damage.
 
grooves may be used in a bearing to direct the flow of oil or grease in a bearing. however, they should be very carefully designed in such a way that they do not constitute a path between a loaded and a unloaded zone of the bearing, otherwise you will not be able to get the hydrodynamical pressure buildup needed for proper lubrication.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Part and Inventory Search

Sponsor