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B31.1 Branch Ligaments
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Big Tank,
You are correct, I do not work with the Boiler & Pressure Vessel Code.
The poster was citing ASME B31.1(a Piping Code) and 'multiple branch connections'(a piping term) not the BPVC.
So my question still stands, what is a ligament?
prognosis: Lead or Lag
You are correct, I do not work with the Boiler & Pressure Vessel Code.
The poster was citing ASME B31.1(a Piping Code) and 'multiple branch connections'(a piping term) not the BPVC.
So my question still stands, what is a ligament?
prognosis: Lead or Lag
pennpiper,
Have a look in ASME 1 - a ligament is the base metal between the edges of two holes on a pressure part.
Example: a header with multiple branches has ligaments between each of the tube holes.
Big Inch,
Not sure if this helps at all - can't find anything else
Table D-1 Flexibility and Stress Intensification Factors (Cont’d)
(6) The equation applies only if the following conditions are met.
(c) For branch connections in a pipe, the arc distance measured between the centers of adjacent branches along
the surface of the run pipe is not less than three times the sum of their inside radii in the longitudinal direction or is not less than two times the sum of their radii along the circumference of the run pipe.
Cheers,
DD
Have a look in ASME 1 - a ligament is the base metal between the edges of two holes on a pressure part.
Example: a header with multiple branches has ligaments between each of the tube holes.
Big Inch,
Not sure if this helps at all - can't find anything else
Table D-1 Flexibility and Stress Intensification Factors (Cont’d)
(6) The equation applies only if the following conditions are met.
(c) For branch connections in a pipe, the arc distance measured between the centers of adjacent branches along
the surface of the run pipe is not less than three times the sum of their inside radii in the longitudinal direction or is not less than two times the sum of their radii along the circumference of the run pipe.
Cheers,
DD
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pennpiper: PG-52 is Section I of BPVC, so I did mention it in the original post. I guess I didn't realize that you wouldn't know that unless you knew that part of the BPVC Code
DekDee: thanks for digging! An engineer at our company that recently left liked to apply Code methodology where the Code allows for 'sound engineering judgement'. In this instance it appears he thickened the wall required in B31.1 by using a ligament efficiency as calculated in Section I in an application where the piping carried water to or from a Section I economizer and there were some branch connections relatively close to one another. This seems alright by me, but I think (as BPVC seems to do) it obscures what's really happening in that area in terms of stress. Since a precedent has been set, I may use the same method where applicable.
GenB: I assume you're describing PG-52? I'm not sure if you're trying to direct me somewhere or......
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DekDee: thanks for digging! An engineer at our company that recently left liked to apply Code methodology where the Code allows for 'sound engineering judgement'. In this instance it appears he thickened the wall required in B31.1 by using a ligament efficiency as calculated in Section I in an application where the piping carried water to or from a Section I economizer and there were some branch connections relatively close to one another. This seems alright by me, but I think (as BPVC seems to do) it obscures what's really happening in that area in terms of stress. Since a precedent has been set, I may use the same method where applicable.
GenB: I assume you're describing PG-52? I'm not sure if you're trying to direct me somewhere or......
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