One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
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Hi, I am currently a third-year Civil Engineering Student from the Philippines.
Our professor gave us a project where we lay out our own 2-storey house floorplans and beam and column, and do a structural analysis on it. My professor challenge me to find out how independent structures of one building were done or constructed and how its analysis should be done as well. I did my research through the internet but it was to no avail. I also messaged different youtube civil engineers, and apparently, I did not get any reply. I do not know where I could find some valuable information. And now, I am really hoping that I could get some help from here. Thank you!
Our professor gave us a project where we lay out our own 2-storey house floorplans and beam and column, and do a structural analysis on it. My professor challenge me to find out how independent structures of one building were done or constructed and how its analysis should be done as well. I did my research through the internet but it was to no avail. I also messaged different youtube civil engineers, and apparently, I did not get any reply. I do not know where I could find some valuable information. And now, I am really hoping that I could get some help from here. Thank you!
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?
-Dik
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?
-Dik
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
I hope my question is really making sense. sorry about that
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
-Dik
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
I wanted to ask how do engineers make it possible that one building, with 2 independent structures makes it look like one whole structure from inside the building?
Same as this floorplan, what if I wanted the highlighted part of the floorplan to be an independent structure so that I do not need to align the columns (like how our professor suggested to do, but at the same time as I walk in the house there is no discontinuity? I am sorry if my question feels like a stubborn one
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
-Dik
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
-Dik
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
It took me a while before I could reply to this thread, I am honestly not confident of my understanding of some of the concepts. I have to make sure that I could get the gist of it, so I emailed this discussion thread to my professor, and he explained that, as what you said,
I can design two adjacent structures independently (even placing in one footing - a combined footing). Since they're independent, I have to avoid interconnecting them structurally, but rather make sure that there is some shared access (shared hallways) between the two structures.
I also appreciate that you showed me an example of your work and honestly that "joint" kinda confuses me since you said that there were 5 separate buildings and they cannot be interconnected. Though I think it is not a part of the structural aspect, I still have to ask (since I forgot to ask my professor as well). By what that "joint" means?
I hope I am not causing annoyance to your part.
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
-Dik
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
I also checked out the plastic design, and I think that is on our Steel Design (for the Next Semester) however, I will still ask my professor about this.
Also, Sir, you are amazing, it has been 40 years and you are still sharp.
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
An interesting part of the framing is the structure between the office and storage. I'd seen structure like the attached used for decorative framing at the Eaton's Center in Toronto (non-load bearing). I used the same approach for picking up roof (very high snow accumulation > 100 psf if memory serves and mech equipment weight and snow accum from it) and floor loads for the framing between.
I should have added the plastic moment for the 2 span cont beam on the bottom is 0.0858*q*l^2 and the elastic moment is 0.125*q*l^2... big savings.
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
-Dik
RE: One building, but has 2 or more independent structure
I have another question, although I asked about independent structures, I am wondering why did you opt for 5 structurally independent buildings? Is having a large column (that is the same size of two independent columns)a disadvantage? if so, I would like to know reason behind that? This may give me helpful insights.
Being in a forum, giving help,ideas and insights, You're still sharp, sir.