Stress at Displacement Boundary Condition
Stress at Displacement Boundary Condition
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Hi all,
I understand we don't take stress at the boundary condition especially SPC.
What if I apply displacement across an area, is the stress at this area valid for assessment? Thanks!
I understand we don't take stress at the boundary condition especially SPC.
What if I apply displacement across an area, is the stress at this area valid for assessment? Thanks!
RE: Stress at Displacement Boundary Condition
RE: Stress at Displacement Boundary Condition
Hi SWComposites, I uploaded the picture... I wondering if I could just directly take the stress of the area with applied displacement or I have to model another part with contact element to the bolt hole...
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are you trying to simulate contact ?
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Basically, the area will be pushed to a required distance ... and we would like to see if this area will be damaged... some directly pick the stress at this area... I am thinking to model another part with contact element in between then assess the stress there...
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What material model are you using?
Predicting “damage” for bearing load is a VERY complicated, difficult problem.
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Let's say there is a beam and I press the end up to 0.5cm and if I want to assess if the area where I press it would result in any risk of failure, can I check the stress directly within that region?
The material is aluminum.
I understand that we do not take the stress at boundary condition but not sure about this
RE: Stress at Displacement Boundary Condition
FEA gives us a view into a much deeper world. In hand calcs no one asks "what is the stress 1mm away from the point load ?" 'cause everyone knows a point load is artificial.
You've applied an enforced displacement to a cantilever. Hopefully you applied the displacement to a single node (or a very small group of nodes) and not to the blue "blob" at the end of the cantilever. Displacing the entire blue area says within the blue nothing much is happening (it's all displacing the same) and at the boundary merry "hell" is happening, as one atom of Al looks at it's pal microns away and sees this instantaneous (in terms of length along the beam) displacement. I'd do a hand calc at the boundary of your enforced displacement ... shear on the cross-section. If you want to kill it with analysis, then maybe a shear lag calc from the load point.
One is tempted to ask "why FEA such a simple problem?"
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Someone from my group taking the high stress at the area where enforced displacement is applied to judge the reason of damage...but I do not feel comfortable to take the stress at where the displacement applied to... Another reason given is it is conservative but... I am still not fine with it...
Note: P is where the displacement applied...
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so something is riding up the ramp, pushing the latch down, until "snap", the thing travels past the end of the ramp. If you're seeing damage, this is something I'd look into ... the impact load of the "snap".
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I don't think it is realistic yet it is claimed that conservative...
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agree with SWC, the critical section is most likely the fixed end of the cantilever.
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Yes... the failure should be at the root but there was some damage at the Area A...the team interpret the high stress at Area A resulted the damage ... but I think the high stress is due to displacement
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When it's your team you can tell them how to do it "right" !
It is one of the things I've noticed over the years ... we seems to be surrounding calculation for "tech pubs" ... very nice stories, full of pictures and nice formatting (at the expense of content and understanding). What I've described as "building palaces in the swamps". FEM produces numbers and pictures and some people feel that these are "revelations".
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The rubbing/sliding materials could play a big role in "Damage." Some Stainless steel on Stainless Steel combos are VERY prone to destructive galling if the contact stress exceeds a few ksi.
I figure during assembly, Just before the cantilever snaps home, area A will be tipped relative to whatever the opposing surface is. So considering the entire Area A being instantaneously involved in anything connected with assembly is definitely NOT conservative. Maybe 100 X NOT conservative. Pictures of the damage of several samples would be REQUIRED to understand this
How are the several details of the interface of the mating snap interface holding up? Any chamfers, or lack of them, on the edge of the mating snap interface.
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In other words your trying to apply tons of math and computer time where just simple knowledge of materials to use will fix the problem.
There have been thousands of engineering failures due to wrong material choices, especially in the transportation industry's.
Toss out the computer and find an old mechanic or machinist to fix it for you.
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