StressGuy
Mechanical
- Apr 4, 2002
- 484
Looking for some recommendations from the group on a material question.
I've got a recip compressor piping system and we're using
the fairly common stiffened strap type hold down clamps
to restrain the piping. Normally, we would use FABREEKA as
the belting material.
However, in this case, the compressor piping will see
temperatures in the range of 250°F to 300°F, and FABREEKA
is specifically limited to temperatures below 200°F, so it's
out of the game.
For most of the clamps, I am using Teflon to give some
additional dampening, and to provide some extra insurance
that the pipe will be able to slide thermally through
the hold downs. I'm calling for hard directional anchors
where I need to keep the line from moving axially.
All this is working fine, except for a few spots around
the machine itself. The pulsation study vendor has
asked for an additional directional anchor near the
machine at a point with little flexibility. Even with
modeling stiffness values for the pulsation bottle and
the restraint (had to ask my C/S engineer for a stiffness
of his concrete pedestal, that's fun) the thermal loads
on the compressor are higher than what the vendor can
handle.
The stiffness value that they have asked for is only
30,000 lbs/in, so a stiff directional anchor is not
required, but the vendor doesn't think the Teflon lining
is going to give enough grip to dampen the axial mode
shape that is the concern.
What I'm looking for is some kind of rubber/polymer based
material that is going to give a good bit of grip, but
that will also work at temperatures of 300°F w/o breaking
down like FABREEKA.
I'll be doing my own searching, but I imagine some of the
more seasoned members of the group have had to deal with
hot recip compressor piping before and can help steer
my investigation in some fruitful directions.
Thanks,
--ED Edward L. Klein
Pipe Stress Engineer
Houston, Texas
All opinions expressed here are my own and not my company's.
I've got a recip compressor piping system and we're using
the fairly common stiffened strap type hold down clamps
to restrain the piping. Normally, we would use FABREEKA as
the belting material.
However, in this case, the compressor piping will see
temperatures in the range of 250°F to 300°F, and FABREEKA
is specifically limited to temperatures below 200°F, so it's
out of the game.
For most of the clamps, I am using Teflon to give some
additional dampening, and to provide some extra insurance
that the pipe will be able to slide thermally through
the hold downs. I'm calling for hard directional anchors
where I need to keep the line from moving axially.
All this is working fine, except for a few spots around
the machine itself. The pulsation study vendor has
asked for an additional directional anchor near the
machine at a point with little flexibility. Even with
modeling stiffness values for the pulsation bottle and
the restraint (had to ask my C/S engineer for a stiffness
of his concrete pedestal, that's fun) the thermal loads
on the compressor are higher than what the vendor can
handle.
The stiffness value that they have asked for is only
30,000 lbs/in, so a stiff directional anchor is not
required, but the vendor doesn't think the Teflon lining
is going to give enough grip to dampen the axial mode
shape that is the concern.
What I'm looking for is some kind of rubber/polymer based
material that is going to give a good bit of grip, but
that will also work at temperatures of 300°F w/o breaking
down like FABREEKA.
I'll be doing my own searching, but I imagine some of the
more seasoned members of the group have had to deal with
hot recip compressor piping before and can help steer
my investigation in some fruitful directions.
Thanks,
--ED Edward L. Klein
Pipe Stress Engineer
Houston, Texas
All opinions expressed here are my own and not my company's.