Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II 24

[dik]

For earlier thread, see

thread1618-496010

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

dik,

Please explain why you think the article from Australia about all the problems with rooftop solar maintenance is 'good news'. Or was that some sort of sarcasm, like brimstoner's? Maybe you just don't read your own links.

 

[dik]

They are trying to address the problems with fossil fuels in a positive fashion, I think. Every little bit helps.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

Like I thought, you just read the headline, which does not reflect the subject matter of the article.

 

[GregLocock]

The mean anomaly between the 2050 'prediction' and 2022 actual is a mere 6.4 deg C, approximately 4 centuries of warming.

Has this thread reached peak stupidity yet? No, I know it'll get worse.


2050 2022 delta
30 19 11
38 27 11
32 26 6
38 32 6
39 37 2
43 34 9
40 40 0



Cheers

Greg Locock


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[Guest102023]

Talking to Americans

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[LionelHutz]

This thread is pathetic. I'm not even looking at any more links because apparently every single hot day, cold day, rain storm, heat wave and forest fire is now caused by climate change, and yet the people pushing this agenda by spewing that nonsense wonder why they get push back. Sure, CO2 has gone up and sure the world seems to be warming, but pointing out that every single weather event that makes the news is proof the climate is changing is complete complete and utter hogwash. You'd think engineer would know this more than the average person but apparently not.

 

[Pud]

Lionel, very well said.


Politicians like to panic, they need activity. It is their substitute for achievement.

 

[dik]

It is Hokie, but it's a move in the right direction.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[rb1957]

"No, I know it'll get worse." ... true dat ! arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig ...

wot, you get lipstick on yourself ?

the whole point to this argument (it gave up being a debate a long time ago) is that the climate is changing and we are burning FFs. Some people link the two either because it's obvious or because it suits their personal outlook or because they have some data supporting this linkage. Others don't link them because it is not obvious or because it suits their personal outlook or because they have some data refuting the linkage. And then there's politics and money.

The issue is that to stop burning FFs will impose an unacceptable cost on our civilisation (my money is still on civil unrest will be the ultimate downfall of our civilisation, and will usher in a new dark age, but hopefully not in the next 30 years) and may not fix the problem either. We can't even agree on relatively modest (but still painful) measures like a moratorium on mining and burning coal. But we can have trading schemes (or scams) such that some people get rich and the expense of others with no real change to anything and we keep playing the game.

sigh ...

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[TugboatEng]

I wish brimstoner hadn't derailed this thread so badly. I tried to post an interesting observation that the warming that we have seen can be accounted for by our energy consumption and is not connected to the source of the energy. Even if we were to go 100% solar we would not reduce our contribution to warming. We need to focus on conservation, not renewables.

 

[dik]

more heating up...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...orests-heatwave-causes-1-000-deaths-DAYS.html

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Dik, could you please include commentary in your posts? We want to know your thoughts, not dailymail's.

 

[Guest102023]

Pot kettle black TBE.

Carry on helping mankind with whataboutery and conspiracy politics.

I have full awareness and self-awareness. You don’t have a clue. You have to open your ears before having any possibility of opening your mind.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Guest102023]

rb1957,

That should the last word. I know I’m done with this cluster of a thread.

p.s., FFs is the appropriate term for this

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Pud]

Sums it up.

Have a good life brimstone.


Politicians like to panic, they need activity. It is their substitute for achievement.

 

[dik]

Pud... the BBC has similar news, and I don't think the Daily Mail photoshopped those photos:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62196045

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Dik, photography is an art, it does not always represent reality.

 

[dik]

Yes tug... but some people at the UN are starting to get concerned...but, they are probably overreacting... whoda thought there would be over a million American fatalities from Covid?

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ve-suicide-over-climate-crisis-warns-un-chief

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

1 million fatalities "with" COVID...

 

[dik]

semantics; he didn't die from cancer, he died with cancer... most of them avoidable, nonetheless

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik