Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XIV 3

[dik]

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Things are Starting to Warm Up. - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/hottest-city-earth-mothers-bear-brunt-climate-change-2022-06-14/ a sign of things to come... hold on to your hats, folks. [pipe] Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any...

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Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

For earlier thread, see thread1618-496010 So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates -Dik

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Things are Starting to Warm Up Part III - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Warm/Heat Up Part IV - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part V - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up Part VI - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part VII - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part VIII - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part IX - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part X - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XI - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XIII - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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[dik]

From another post...

China

"China is leading the world in renewable resources, and slowly working away from coal fired operations.
"In 2020, for example, China pledged to reach 1,200 gigawatts of renewables capacity by 2030, more than double its capacity at that time. At its present pace, it will meet that target by 2025, and could boast as much as 1,000 gigawatts of solar power alone by the end of 2026, an achievement that would make a substantial contribution to the 11,000 gigawatts of installed renewable capacity that the world needs to meet the 2030 targets of the Paris Agreement. Fossil fuels now make up less than half of China’s total installed generation capacity, a dramatic reduction from a decade ago when fossil fuels accounted for two-thirds of its power capacity."
They are doing far better than the US who is responsible for nearly twice the per-capita carbon footprint."

 

[TugboatEng]

How are they walking away from coal fires operations while simultaneously building new coal fired generation?

 

[GregLocock]

And yet China's coal use for electricity production still increases at just the same rate as ever. Rarely have I seen such gullible wholesale swallowing of a piece of spin. Post 132 in this thread for those with the attention span of a goldfish.

 

[dik]

It's diminishing quickly... and with Genocide Don in charge, it's unlikely the US will diminish during his term(s).

 

[GregLocock]

"It's diminishing quickly" well, I suppose so in your mind. The numbers in post 132 say otherwise.

 

[Tomfh]

How are they walking away from coal fires operations while simultaneously building new coal fired generation?

Ahh, but they’re building a greater amount less than they otherwise could have, and this saving more than makes up for the actual increase.

 

[JoshPlumSE]

Dik: It's diminishing quickly... and with Genocide Don in charge, it's unlikely the US will diminish during his term(s).

I struggle for words about this post of yours. For a very short post, it seems to have plethora of ridiculousness.


a) What's "diminishing quickly", the context of previous posts would suggest that China's coal usage is diminishing quickly. I don't believe this is factually correct. If that's what you were saying please provide a basis for this. Now, as a PERCENTABE of their overall energy production it MIGHT be true. But, China is growing so incredibly fast that the percentage can go down while the total coal usage can still go up.

b) "Genocide Don"..... I just can't. What is the basis for this nickname? It's not even catchy or funny. Ergo, I assume you have a reason for using this term. Something that you think is genocidal about Donald Trump. Is it enforcing immigration laws? Maybe recognizing that title 9 protections clearly were intended for biological sex and not based on some confused transvestite cosplayers? Maybe taking the side of Israel over Hamas? What is it, please let us know the reason why you shared this nickname with us!
Note: I have never been a supporter of Trump. A defender on occasion. I consider myself politically conservative, but I left the Republican party in favor of the Libertarian party BECAUSE of Trump's take over of that party.

c) I assume that the "it's unlikely the US will diminish during his term" comment also relates to coal usage. I think that's fair, he's trying to roll back a bunch of climate change related energy restrictions that have been pushed in recent years. So, I understand this term. And, I will agree that it's possible. Though the US has been steadily reducing it's coal usage for more than a decade. Mostly in favor of natural gas, but Wind and solar have greatly increased as well.

Interactive Map of U.S. Power Plants

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[dik]

Donut Lab

"Technology company Donut Lab has created a range of doughnut-shaped motors that fit directly inside a vehicle's wheels and enhance performance by removing the need for traditional powertrain systems.

The circular motors form part of a modular platform of components created by Donut Lab to support the manufacturing of high-performing electric vehicles."

https://www.dezeen.com/2025/05/05/donut-labs-circular-inwheel-motors/#disqus_thread

 

[dik]

Josh... it appears that coal and gas make up for twice the energy production as all the other methods.

 

[dik]

How are they walking away from coal fires operations while simultaneously building new coal fired generation?

 

[JoshPlumSE]

Dik: Josh... it appears that coal and gas make up for twice the energy production as all the other methods.

My point was about coal not natural gas....

FWIW, from a perspective of Energy Economic, natural gas is way more efficient (in terms of MegaWatt supplied vs CO2 released) than coal.

But, why is that significant? Because the most COST EFFECTIVE way to reduce our carbon emissions is to replace coal power plants with CO2 ones in the short term and nuclear in the longer term.

If you push too aggressively for non-carbon releasing ways of generating energy then every energy intensive industry (like manufacturing) is going to move to a different country where energy costs are cheaper. In those locations, their power plant generate more CO2 and pollution than ours. Plus, we then have to ship those products halway across the world.... resulting in far, far more CO2 emissions than if we'd just stuck with natural gas.

We've seen this with Europe especially.

FWIW, I don't have the citations for this. But, my father (who was a world renowned energy economist) was working on a book about this before he had his medical issues 8 years ago or so.

 

[GregLocock]

In which dik either demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of %ages, or knows damn well what he is doing and uses them to mislead (a politer version of what I initially wrote). See post 132. The %age is dropping slightly, the coal use is increasing, as Tugboat said.