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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part X 13

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dik

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Apr 13, 2001
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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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Ocean temperatures are on the increase. This can have a big impact on marine life, like in Texas last week, sargassum growths, or on coral reefs.

"The global sea surface temperatures for both April and May were the highest on record for those calendar months in a series stretching back to 1850. That is according to the HadSST.4.0.1.0 dataset compiled by the Met Office."


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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Are things getting interesting in Texas? This could be the future and it could get a lot worse. We just don't know.

"Millions of people in Texas are bracing for extreme temperatures over the weekend just days after a tornado killed three people in the state.
Temperatures have been climbing since Thursday, when a major storm system swept the southern US, also causing deaths in Florida and Mississippi.
Power is out for 400,000 customers in the South as of Friday evening.
Officials warn that the brutal heat will strain power grids as residents run their air conditioners."



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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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Effect of Climate Change on Hurricanes:

"Hurricanes are the most violent storms on the planet. The names of the most damaging ones live on because of the devastation they left in their wake.

Known outside of North America as tropical cyclones or typhoons, hurricanes are essentially massive engines of wind and rain that are fueled by warm ocean water and air.

This heat energy is converted into lashing winds and driving rainfall that can bring devastating impacts when they hit cities, homes and infrastructure.

Over the last two-plus centuries, human activity — mainly the burning of fossil fuels – has added lots of heat to the oceans and air where these storms are spawned.

The 2020 Atlantic hurricane season was the most active on record, and many of the storms that slammed into the Gulf Coast, Central America and the Caribbean this year exhibited hallmark signs that they were supercharged by global warming."


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
It's a start; I wonder how far this will go? The governments are doing nothing to 'slow it down'.

"About 40 million people across the southern US are at risk for severe weather Sunday as storms move into the Lower Mississippi Valley and the central Gulf Coast states, bringing the risk of large hail and damaging winds.

There is an enhanced risk of severe weather, considered Level 3 of 5, for an area across the lower Mississippi River Valley, including Arkansas, northern Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and the Florida Panhandle.

The storms will be “fast-moving, including the potential for both supercells and linear/bowing structures,” which typically produce strong wind events, according to the Storm Prediction Center."


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
Hokie... something to work on.

"Australia needs to reduce emissions to net zero by 2038 to do ‘fair share’ to contain global heating, analysis shows"


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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Polar ice continues to melt...

"The simple and straightforward answer is yes. It is, in fact, melting. But it’s a bit more complicated than that. You can think of ice sheets or Antarctica and Greenland as a bathtub full of water. And we want to know how much is going into that bathtub and how much is coming out.

So, for instance, snow falling over the ice sheet is like running the faucet. You turn on the faucet, it fills up with water, and then melting when you get a warm atmosphere or a warm ocean, it’s opening up the drain and letting water out. So it’s not just about melting. It’s also about how much snow falls and what the balance is there."


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
Democracy in action:

"Voters in Switzerland have backed a new climate bill designed to cut fossil fuel use and reach net-zero carbon emissions by 2050.

The government says the country needs to protect its energy security and the environment, as glaciers melt rapidly in the Swiss Alps.

The law will require a move away from dependence on imported oil and gas towards the use of renewable sources.

In Sunday's referendum 59.1% of voters backed the green energy proposals.

Opponents had argued the measures would push up energy prices.

Nearly all of Switzerland's major parties supported the bill, except the right-wing Swiss People's Party (SVP), which triggered the referendum after pushing back against the government's proposals."


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
Woohoo! Switzerland will be net zero by 27 years from now! The world is saved! Well, unless they change their minds when they see what it does to their energy prices. Of course, their one tenth of 1% of the human contribution to CO2 emissions, which is somewhat under 3% of the total CO2 going into the atmosphere, is sure to tip the scale.
 
They're such a small part of the problem... and their zero carbon event will have little impact. Are you suggesting the Americans just ignore carbon change and just live with the consequences?

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
Maybe not warming up? This is a little different for Canada in June... Maybe there can be a 'frosty Friday in July'?

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
June 18th was the coldest recorded for Seattle area in some 50+ years.

edit: it's called weather.
 
and cumulatively, it will be called climate. It may be changing, and maybe not for the best.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
They're such a small part of the problem... and their zero carbon event will have little impact. Are you suggesting the Americans just ignore carbon change and just live with the consequences?

You were the one that decided to tout their 'progress'. I was just pointing out what you admit here - nothing the Swiss do is going to matter.
 
They are setting a good example, at very least... maybe somebody else will catch on. Interesting thing down in the American South and the current weather. It will become more interesting if this becomes a weekly occurence.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
They are setting a good example

Well, an example of some kind, perhaps a cautionary example, assuming they follow through. Otherwise, it's just meaningless virtue signaling. Who knows, by 2050 it may be alot colder, and there will be calls to increase CO2 output to stave off the impending ice age.

Interesting that there were no calls to increase fossil fuel usage and CO2 output in the 1970's when global cooling was the crisis du jour. Instead, the 'solution' then was the same - more taxes for more government and more government regulations.
 
It's like rolling the climate dice... you have no idea of what might turn up...

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
BridgeSmith said:
Interesting that there were no calls to increase fossil fuel usage and CO2 output in the 1970's when global cooling was the crisis du jour.

My belief that "greenhouse gases" and "anthropogenic global warming" were not really areas of science back then. It wasn't even until the 80's when we found out about CFCs and their effect on the Ozone layer. My guess is that the ozone layer issue is what really energized the concept of studying human effect on the upper atmosphere.

Prior to that, we were mostly just worried about "acid rain" which was a relatively localized effect near plants that had certain kind of emissions.
 
Josh said:
My belief that "greenhouse gases" and "anthropogenic global warming" were not really areas of science back then.

The first scientific predictions were in the 60s. This is one of the key papers from 1967, which predicted around 2 degrees C for doubling of CO2:


It took a couple of decades for these ideas to filter thru into the public.
 
dik said:
It's like rolling the climate dice... you have no idea of what might turn up...

I thought the science was settled?
 
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