Showing Weld beads on a drawing

[marshell]

In AWS 2.4, they show the weld cross section, and they will show the "symbol" next to it. The symbol picure will show no weld representation except for the leader and symbol. My question is... Is it acceptable to show the weld bead on the drawing with the weld symbol pointing at it. I am being told that since the AWS specification does not show the weld beads in the call-outs, they should not show on the drawing. With the current cadd technology, it is so simple to put on there, and since I show them in the model, it causes more work to not have them on the drawing. I am looking for somewhere that states they "shall", "shall not" or "it doesn't matter" if they are shown.

Thanks in advance

 

[MikeHalloran]

For a while I worked in a shop full of self-taught and OJT'd welders. They wouldn't know what an AWS symbol was, much less know how to read it. I produced a few designs where I really really didn't want a weld in a certain location, but I never found a way to make a drawing say "don't weld here" when the default was "weld the sh!t out of it", and I didn't speak the default shop language, Spanish.
Even "Call Me!" in red on the shop drawings didn't work. They'd finish the part, then call me to see what they had already done, and brag about it.

I have in the past shown weld beads on drawings, especially where there was a clearance risk in the assembly, or when the weld was intended to be asymmetrical the 'wrong' way.



Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA