Regen Hell Part Deu

[treddie]

GOD! This is drivin me up the f'in wall!!!
I used to be able to trim edges in my sketches and NEVER would I have any regen issues. Now I CONSTANTLY get this message that keeps me stuck in sketcher for hours trying to fix it:

WARNING: Not all open ends have been explicitly aligned.
Cannot have mixture of open and closed sections.
Section is incomplete for reasons listed above.

What the hell am I doing wrong?!
This problem started about a month ago, and is stuck in my face like an annoying fly that won't go away. Could I have inadvertently set something wrong in my Tools>Options? Thing is, I haven't CHANGED any of my options! Could it be absolute vs. Relative accuracy? I've tried that...sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Point is, this NEVER used to be an issue regardless of accuracy mode. I can dimension the hell out of a sketch to no avail. Could the Trim function have become corrupt. Not likely...I recently had to re-image my hard drive due to an unrelated problem, from an image made 9 months ago, when everything was cool.
Only thing I can think of is that many of my files for this project have become corrupt somehow (I have been utilizing pre-existing parts, to build from so that I wouldn't have to rebuild all my datums).
I guess I'll try rebuilding this particular part from scratch. Datums and all. I have noticed funky loading issues for many of the parts for this thing.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated,
TIA,
treddie

 

[Guest0527211403]

I doubt the file would have opened if it had become corrupt.

The problem sounds like it's in the sketch, not in Pro/E.

Are you still working with a monster sketch, or has it been simplified somewhat? Are there weak (grey) constraints in your sketch that you may have missed?

Are you using the "use edge" tool? If so, are you using the dynamic trim (the one where you make the squiggly red line to delete stuff) or the trim/extend tool? (Trim/Extend is the second option in the trim flyout). I recommend the latter.

Check to see that a line hasn't been sketched directly over another line. AutoCAD lets us get away with that but Pro/E isn't so forgiving

Try picking individual lines and pressing delete. If you still see a line after you delete the first one, then that's your problem.

The issue is that this could be a little chunk of a line (see dynamic trim above). Usually a tell-tale sign is a bunch of dimensions that you can't explain (often show up as zeros).

"I can dimension the hell out of a sketch to no avail"
More dimensioning is not good. Too little dimensioning is not good. You should always walk out of the sketch with just as many dimensions as you inteded to make when you started with it. Anything else can easily come to bite you on the butt later on.

 

[WildCAD]

Can you tone down on the language? That would make it easier for me to want to help you.
Sip

 

[treddie]

Sorry WildCAD...It's just that I'm so frustrated with this thing now. But I have plenty of suggestions here to work with and will give them all a try. Thanks again everyone, and I will be back soon to let you know of my results.

justkeepgiviner > Nope, I learned not to cram everything into one sketch per your earlier suggestion, but did go back into existing parts (already created from that bloated sketch), to get my datum system. And had already checked for little stray untrimmed lines and duplicates. This thing was so simple there was really no place for stray snippets to hide, and again, there were no duplicates. Will test your other suggestions, but Dynamic Trim used to work so well. Why it died is a mystery to me.

treddie

treddie

 

[treddie]

Well, I got all worked up over nothing. If I'd just gone to bed that night (2:30am), I would have found the problem in the morning. You were right, justkeepgiviner; Line hiding behind another line where I least expected it. Thought I caught every one, but not THAT one. Same problem as before. The reason that I never ran into this problem until recently was because I loosened up my attention to get things moving quicker. I ran a line that was meant as a trimming edge, but let it run over an edge of a rectangle. That particular edge of the rectangle was not meant to be trimmed.
Sure would be nice if ProE would display WHERE the problem is rather than have to search for it, though.
Will get back to paying more attention as a SOP when setting up these types of situations.

Thanks for all the help and patience, everyone.
treddie

 

[Guest0527211403]

I can't remember what discussion it was, but I remember lamenting over the same thing.

I wish Pro/E had a "sketch check", like a spell checker, that interrogated the sketch for things like open loops, duplicate lines and all that jazz.... Oh well, maybe one day...

 

[treddie]

I hope its before Wildfire 10.

 

[WildCAD]

I used Alibre design, and they highlight where the problem is in sketcher; they have sketcher integrity check, if I remember right.

treddie, apology accepted, I know it can be frustrating at times.

Sip