NX 7.5 (or later) LapTop choice

[NikonF6]

It is proposed here that computer for NX (say v.7.5 or later) should be Dell Laptop Workstation with c.16 GB memory...
It costs around $5000

I decided to use Sony Vayo VPCCB which costs less than $1000 (64 bit)
It has 6 GB RAM (memory), and "dedicated graphic card" (i am not hardware guru so you might understand it better) AMD-ATI HD Radeon 6470M
CPU is core i5-2410M (do not know meaning of 2410M)

When we installed NX7.5 on it it usually get very slow (i think due to slow hards disk).
I got the faster hard disk with much more cache memory on it, and bought my own Windows 7 professiona - 64.
AND BANG.
It runs like crazy racer and so smooth turn/zoom. Sometimes get slower but just for a short and acceptable. I open file which is a whole house with foundation, joists, ..., and all nails in it and other details. No problem. Modeling, drawing, assembly, motion, Running also NX-Nastran non-linear and ...
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I would like guys you to instruct me what i can gain with DELL $5000 workstation with 8 or 16 GM of RAM. It is nice to have it but well...
Thanks a lot for you advice.

 

[cowski]

I would like guys you to instruct me what i can gain with DELL $5000 workstation with 8 or 16 GM of RAM.

Technical support from GTAC if something doesn't work, for starters...

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[SDETERS]

Look into solid state drives. Do search on this forum for hardware there was a conversation a couple months back that go over some of this stuff.

 

[looslib]

Check the NX hardware pages at GTAC and see if Radeon cards are supported.
While you may get exceptional performance, ANY issues at all with NX on that laptop and GTAC may tell you it is an unsupported hardware configuration and can refuse to look further into the issue.
Typically the ATI Radeon and Nvidia GeForce cards are not certified by Siemens as they are considered gaming cards.


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Ben Loosli

 

[NikonF6]

Great answers.
We have absolutelly no any issue with harware/software as described originally. It all works fine with Sony Vayo and fast HardDrive. I understand that ATI is considered as gaming by Siemens. But all we do is for survival, for bills paying, so we do whatever it takes on this purpose, even gaming card if it "works".

I just would like to learn is there anything technically we could do better (or faster say 3 times or more), with expensive DELL LapTop.

Thanks a lot

 

[Toost]

Both AMD ( formerly ATI) and Nvidia has "gaming" cards and "Professional" cards.
For Nvidia the gaming cards are typically named "Geforce" and the Professional are typically called Quadro.
For AMD the gaming -"- "Radeon" and the professional -"- "FirePro".

IF you run one of the "gaming" cards and all run well, congratulations. If not, you will have to try find a solution yourself.
If you run one of the, by Siemens certified Professional cards, GTAC will try help if you get graphical problems.

There is a price difference, a quite large one too. Probably because gaming cards sell in multi-millions and the professional cards sell in thousands.

Regards,
Tomas

 

[NikonF6]

right now i am making
-CVT transmissions for car (two axially moving disks 240 mm dia, with a belt in between), lots of small features on it (helix slide sureface, ...)
-Gear boxes size up to 700 mm (20 in) height (all parts)
-Centrifugal pumps (casted case 2000 kg), multistage (surfacing involved too), impellers 3D twisted vanes, shafts, core for casting of passages for fluid, and other parts (extremely complex).
-just translated to UG my whole house project, made in Catia, half done, ALL parts (nails included).
...

and no any problem with ATI card, but exploring what DELL gives extra.

-3D model
-2D drawings
-Assembly
-FEA with NX Nastran (parts, but not yet assembly FEA)

 

[SDETERS]

Nice nails and all in the house. We do a lot of testing here before we get new machines. Maybe if you can get one Dell and test it may be good option.

 

[NikonF6]

I have also DELL desktop, and i cannot see any difference, and if any it go toward that Sony LapTop benefit. What is your experience from testing DELL on NX, compared to other LapTop?

 

[SDETERS]

I got to test a laptop we got for an individual. It was a dell laptop workhorse. It had solid state drives 16 gig of ram a nice video card (sorry I do not remeber what one.) It blew my desktop away. But it was 3 years newer also. It was a nice machine. But it was heavy and not to cheap. I have had also tried to get a low end dell desktop to work with NX. I was going to do some in house training with them. It had on intergrated to the mother board graphic card. They did not even display sketch dimensions correctly. It was an epic failure. Usually laptops are more expensive vs desktops with the internals being equal as possible. One thing to note your video card may work for this version of NX but the next version of NX it may not. So I would be extremly carefull and test all the version of NX you can to make sure your Video card will work on 8-9

 

[mmauldin]

I am running a Dell Precision 4800 laptop with a Nvidia Quadro 2000M card, SSD, 8G ram and 64bit Win 7. As I recall it was about $2400 a year of so ago. It runs NX 7.5 with no issues that I have seen.

 

[NikonF6]

Thanks so much to all.
I think we will stay with our harware LapTop for now, as long as someone wins jackpot, for i do not see much noize around Dell.
We are professional guys and does not change thinks so often, and NX7.5 will see much more wear in our house. We would like to have nicer things, as Dell LapTop, but if it can pay back itself. If we sniff someone getting close just because the newer software well, we will rethink very fast.