Is there an equivalent to ASTM D-930 and ASTM D1280?

[JoeBobJenkins]

I've got instructions stating I need to test aluminum corrosion limits for a cleaner IAW ASTM D-930 or ASTM D-1280. Problem is both of these have been withdrawn and not superceded. I can't seem to find a replacement or equivalent for either. Any hints?

 

[MintJulep]

The last published versions are still available, and they still define methods of test that are executable.

You could contact ASTM and ask for the relevant committee meeting minutes, they should document the reason for the withdrawal, and might point to alternatives.

 

[WKTaylor]

Related to Your question...?

ASTM F483 STANDARD TEST METHOD FOR TOTAL IMMERSION CORROSION TEST FOR AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE CHEMICALS
ASTM F502 STANDARD TEST METHOD FOR EFFECTS OF CLEANING AND CHEMICAL MAINTENANCE MATERIALS ON PAINTED AIRCRAFT SURFACES
ASTM F1110 STANDARD TEST METHOD FOR SANDWICH CORROSION TEST

ASTM G1 RECOMMENDED PRACTICE FOR PREPARING, CLEANING, AND EVALUATING CORROSION TEST SPECIMENS
ASTM G50 STANDARD PRACTICE FOR CONDUCTING ATMOSPHERIC CORROSION TESTS ON METALS

ARP1512 CORROSION OF ALUMINUM ALLOYS BY AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE CHEMICALS SANDWICH TEST
SAE J2635 FILIFORM CORROSION TEST PROCEDURE FOR PAINTED ALUMINUM WHEELS AND PAINTED ALUMINUM WHEEL TRIM
SAE J2721 RECOMMENDED CORROSION TEST METHODS FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE COMPONENTS

USAF T.O. 42A1-1-1 EVALUATION AND SERVICE TESTING Of MATERIALS CLEANING, PAINTING, SEALING, PROTECTIVE TREATING, ANTI-CORROSION, INSPECTION MATERIALS AND RELATED ITEMS

 

[Gr8blu]

OP: Understand what "withdrawn" means in terms of standards.

A withdrawn ASTM specification can still be used. The withdrawn status does not impact the document’s availability or the public's ability to use the document. Withdrawn standards can still be purchased from distributors, and they may be used within an industry or referenced by a government if they choose to do so. However, it is important to note that a withdrawn standard is no longer considered current and does not have 'standard' status.

ASTM and other similar standards groups (IEEE, IEC, ASME, etc.) develop what are called consensus standards. That means they are developed and maintained by volunteers interested in the topic or industry and require regular updating. If no one puts in the effort to update a standard in the required time interval, it gets withdrawn (or maybe technology has passed it by, and it gets superseded).

There are three "levels" of standard:
a) STANDARD dictates mandatory requirements (and is therefore legally binding)
b) RECOMMENDED PRACTICE presents preferred procedures and positions (may contain some legally binding actions)
c) GUIDE suggests alternative approaches to good practice without making clear-cut recommendations (is not legally binding)

 

[EdStainless]

The general practice is allow the continued use of 'withdrawn' standards on existing products/processes, but to not use them on any new work.

 

[JoeBobJenkins]

I guess the main question is, will they still be available or does it become a ticking time bomb? We're getting out of the military world and moving toward the commercial. Sometimes if a MIL-SPEC has been canceled, give it enough time and it's no longer available. Don't want to risk the same thing happening here.

 

[JoeBobJenkins]

Related to Your question...?

ASTM F483 STANDARD TEST METHOD FOR TOTAL IMMERSION CORROSION TEST FOR AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE CHEMICALS
ASTM F502 STANDARD TEST METHOD FOR EFFECTS OF CLEANING AND CHEMICAL MAINTENANCE MATERIALS ON PAINTED AIRCRAFT SURFACES
ASTM F1110 STANDARD TEST METHOD FOR SANDWICH CORROSION TEST

ASTM G1 RECOMMENDED PRACTICE FOR PREPARING, CLEANING, AND EVALUATING CORROSION TEST SPECIMENS
ASTM G50 STANDARD PRACTICE FOR CONDUCTING ATMOSPHERIC CORROSION TESTS ON METALS

ARP1512 CORROSION OF ALUMINUM ALLOYS BY AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE CHEMICALS SANDWICH TEST
SAE J2635 FILIFORM CORROSION TEST PROCEDURE FOR PAINTED ALUMINUM WHEELS AND PAINTED ALUMINUM WHEEL TRIM
SAE J2721 RECOMMENDED CORROSION TEST METHODS FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE COMPONENTS

USAF T.O. 42A1-1-1 EVALUATION AND SERVICE TESTING Of MATERIALS CLEANING, PAINTING, SEALING, PROTECTIVE TREATING, ANTI-CORROSION, INSPECTION MATERIALS AND RELATED ITEMS

Thanks, a few of those might work. We're already working on if F483 cuts the mustard. I'll take a look at the others.