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"What we are harvesting now is nothing compared to 10, 20 or so years ago."
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Lariliss,
1,000,000 years of evolution did not prepare us for the environment we created in the past 250.
When tech types say 'evolve' they are really talking about humans adapting to technology. There is almost no technology that adapts itself to humans (although idiot tech seers and futurists believe it will happen through AI, as literally an article of faith).
IMO humans are at the breaking point with how much we can adapt. We have not stopped being organisms (of which Covid-19 has cruelly reminded us).
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
1,000,000 years of evolution did not prepare us for the environment we created in the past 250.
When tech types say 'evolve' they are really talking about humans adapting to technology. There is almost no technology that adapts itself to humans (although idiot tech seers and futurists believe it will happen through AI, as literally an article of faith).
IMO humans are at the breaking point with how much we can adapt. We have not stopped being organisms (of which Covid-19 has cruelly reminded us).
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
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COVID-19 should not have been an evolution steering event as it's affect is primarily on the post breeding age population. It was only when we chose to take certain actions that it had any affect on our future generations.
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Since C19 may have been the result of climate change forces, it is worthy of some discussion.
There is no evolutionary effect.
After all the nonbreeding population had gotten it, where else could it have gone? It was not ever going to dissappear on its own. The targets were never actively selected. It attacked all indiscriminately. Some targets survived better than others. Lockdowns and vaccines simply reduced the size and number of viable targets in the field, which also reduced the rate of ammo supply. You see in this game, ammo is supplied in proportion to the number of viable targets in the field, just like US drone strikes. That's why the curves are of lesser amplitude and of shorterer duration now. Ammo is depleting. However the delta variant may be a smarter bomb, which will probably be confirmed in short. The trajectory of C19 would have been different and much more of the original target would have been destroyed if left to its own devices, as it was only a matter of time before it reached all ages one way or another, if it was not suppressed. If it was not suppressed, the war would have been over in one informidable blitzkrieg. The outcome in regard to evolution did not change and the approval for 5-12yr olds today in the EU, as well as the various mandates for the still viable targets to remain at home, or get vaccinated, will reduce the target size even that much more. Hopefully those that cannot still take the vaccine can be protected until they can. This war will be over only when all viable targets are removed from the board.
The "Afganistan Solution" is guaranteed to have evolutionary impact, which has real potential for evolutionary advancement, but equal, if not greater, potential for complete failure, as it apparently takes only a small percentage of the uncooperative to really keep throwing spanners into the works by continuing to contribute to the wrong gene pool, i.e. the virus' gene pool, and allowing it to mutate until it hits just one of the right gene sequence that will take it past all known forms of resistance. Evolution works both ways. Do you bet on the human gene or the virus gene to survive. Can you tolerate the cost of the long term war taking it into the trenches, or would you prefer the surgical drone strike method. Maybe, just maybe, it might start attacking only the smart people. Then where would we be when the CC crisis finally hits?
There is no evolutionary effect.
After all the nonbreeding population had gotten it, where else could it have gone? It was not ever going to dissappear on its own. The targets were never actively selected. It attacked all indiscriminately. Some targets survived better than others. Lockdowns and vaccines simply reduced the size and number of viable targets in the field, which also reduced the rate of ammo supply. You see in this game, ammo is supplied in proportion to the number of viable targets in the field, just like US drone strikes. That's why the curves are of lesser amplitude and of shorterer duration now. Ammo is depleting. However the delta variant may be a smarter bomb, which will probably be confirmed in short. The trajectory of C19 would have been different and much more of the original target would have been destroyed if left to its own devices, as it was only a matter of time before it reached all ages one way or another, if it was not suppressed. If it was not suppressed, the war would have been over in one informidable blitzkrieg. The outcome in regard to evolution did not change and the approval for 5-12yr olds today in the EU, as well as the various mandates for the still viable targets to remain at home, or get vaccinated, will reduce the target size even that much more. Hopefully those that cannot still take the vaccine can be protected until they can. This war will be over only when all viable targets are removed from the board.
The "Afganistan Solution" is guaranteed to have evolutionary impact, which has real potential for evolutionary advancement, but equal, if not greater, potential for complete failure, as it apparently takes only a small percentage of the uncooperative to really keep throwing spanners into the works by continuing to contribute to the wrong gene pool, i.e. the virus' gene pool, and allowing it to mutate until it hits just one of the right gene sequence that will take it past all known forms of resistance. Evolution works both ways. Do you bet on the human gene or the virus gene to survive. Can you tolerate the cost of the long term war taking it into the trenches, or would you prefer the surgical drone strike method. Maybe, just maybe, it might start attacking only the smart people. Then where would we be when the CC crisis finally hits?
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Yes I said "may" and I said "be the result of climate change forces". I did not say "caused by". I would consider "affecting the spread of dieseases" as potentially included. And yes there was a lot more than just a little speculation about that, not only concerning c19, but ebola and c2 as well, but as you probably also know, there is little direct evidence of any kind as to pinpoint its origins, but it does seem to be a possibility. Encephilitus is gaining territory in southern Spain, due to the more favourable warmer temperatures of late. If you don't want to call that CC, it makes no difference to the increasing mosquito population which is responsible. Its not due to increases in water levels, as they have dropped.
You can see these links. At a glance they seem to be on the more reliable side of the Internet with little apparent concern to fuel the CC fires with rubbish.
Now, do you have any links to evidence that it was not?
Thanks ironic_m. I do try to be enlightening, if not, at least entertaining.
You can see these links. At a glance they seem to be on the more reliable side of the Internet with little apparent concern to fuel the CC fires with rubbish.
Now, do you have any links to evidence that it was not?
Thanks ironic_m. I do try to be enlightening, if not, at least entertaining.
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rb1957 said:
Yeah that's a stretch I think, but there's a good case for Globalization and the consequent industrialization of food production being significant factors. China may be industrializing and growing at warp speed, but the same trends have created a vast underclass of poor who are looking for protein (e.g., pangolins) wherever they can find it.
The original explanation of the source of Covid is the most probable one: bats are a repository of nasty viruses, and these crossed over into other mammals and from there to humans at wet markets. Africa has similar risks with so-called bushmeat. Even the CPC is not so stupid and reckless as to to deliberately release something so deadly from their Wuhan lab. (But theorists gonna conspiracy.)
p.s., all those variants of regular flu that China gets automatically blamed for? Many of them originate from migrating birds nesting in Siberia.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
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We don't blame China for flu, we observe them as they are predictive if the next variant.
Chinese eating exotic animals is a product of culture not poverty.
Chinese eating exotic animals is a product of culture not poverty.
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It is the culture of poverty everywhere. Not only in China.
Cajuns actually brag that they'll eat anything that doesn't eat them first.
Tugboat, You deflect from the issues you raised. I presume your argument has collapsed.
[highlight #CC0000]RED ALERT! RED ALERT! RED ALERT! RED ALERT![/highlight]
UK severs flights to South Africa
This is straight off the press. It couldn't be more timely, as I take it as immediate proof of the points I make above. The virus is not content to let you ignore it.
This variant might be the multiple warhead, hypersonic ICBM.
But, if not this one, its just a matter of time before the Death Star arrives.
No the vaccine did not produce this variant. It was the result of natural selection using a true live, in the wild, genetic algorithm process. You can't run. You can't hide. Turn and fight. Stick your head in the Texas sand and your feet may soon follow.
Cajuns actually brag that they'll eat anything that doesn't eat them first.
Tugboat, You deflect from the issues you raised. I presume your argument has collapsed.
[highlight #CC0000]RED ALERT! RED ALERT! RED ALERT! RED ALERT![/highlight]
UK severs flights to South Africa
This is straight off the press. It couldn't be more timely, as I take it as immediate proof of the points I make above. The virus is not content to let you ignore it.
This variant might be the multiple warhead, hypersonic ICBM.
But, if not this one, its just a matter of time before the Death Star arrives.
No the vaccine did not produce this variant. It was the result of natural selection using a true live, in the wild, genetic algorithm process. You can't run. You can't hide. Turn and fight. Stick your head in the Texas sand and your feet may soon follow.
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TugboatEng said:
Well Drumpf blamed China for Covid, and automatically 100+M of his idiot admirers did so too and some started assaulting anyone looking remotely Asian.
The wealthy are more to blame for eating and extincting exotic and even not so exotic animals, and that is primarily a cultural problem no question. (They should modern up and find their EDS remedies where I do - my email junk folder.) The poor are not eating pangolin because they are exotic but because they are desperate (and there is money to be made).
I'm saying the causes are wider and deeper than any of us can wrap our heads around. But one thing we can say is that overpopulation is a factor that overlays almost every global issue today.
p.s., new variant incoming today - if the West had acted in its own interest and vaccinated the 3rd world maybe this could have been prevented.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
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TugboatEng
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IM, I live in one of the regions impacted by the assaults on Asians. This region is the most left leaning in the United States. All of the assaults in Asians were carried out by black people. These aren't Trump supporters.
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They're not exactly missing out. Isn't it the Trump supporters that are assaulting Blacks. Heck, they're assaulting Whites too. In fact all of us. (6 Jan.)
What goes round, comes round, especially after4 5yrs of such crappy retoric. Doesn't take a genius to see that it all that leads up to exactly what happened this and last year. Its the old Brown Shirt strategy dressed up in red, white and blue.
It is widespread and probably involves all races, but it was interesting that the first link I found pins two incidents on a White guy. His political affiliation was not specified.
What goes round, comes round, especially after
It is widespread and probably involves all races, but it was interesting that the first link I found pins two incidents on a White guy. His political affiliation was not specified.
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