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General Motors switching to Catia V5?
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UGoverALL said:
And in those 2 years, how many major companies have actually put V6 into production?
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Interesting dilemma about cadcam versions and suppliers that really hits the cam users...
On the one hand large corporations must stay (for a variety of reasons) many times 2-3 versions behind. Primary manufacturing suppliers are required to be using that older version as their primary data source. But almost without exception, we then use as close to the latest version because it has the better features to get the work out faster. The only exception is when the client wants the source files back for in-house use.
On the cam side, I think my point is that while large companies are the bread & butter for total seats sold, the small companies are the early adopters of the new versions. Large users tend to have a whole department assigned to finding out if new versions support all the older in-house processes. The smaller ones jump on and enjoy the ride.
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On the one hand large corporations must stay (for a variety of reasons) many times 2-3 versions behind. Primary manufacturing suppliers are required to be using that older version as their primary data source. But almost without exception, we then use as close to the latest version because it has the better features to get the work out faster. The only exception is when the client wants the source files back for in-house use.
On the cam side, I think my point is that while large companies are the bread & butter for total seats sold, the small companies are the early adopters of the new versions. Large users tend to have a whole department assigned to finding out if new versions support all the older in-house processes. The smaller ones jump on and enjoy the ride.
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JohnRBaker
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I work in the NX group, NOT TeamCenter.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
JohnRBaker
Mechanical
I guess this mmkes it even more official:
BTW, we also have a press release of our own, but figured the above one would be a more interesting read, under the circumstances ;-)
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
BTW, we also have a press release of our own, but figured the above one would be a more interesting read, under the circumstances ;-)
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
Unless things are "different" for larger purchases I can't see show Catia can compete with NX price wise. Unless of course they stick it to the little guys who have no choice but to keep up with what the big 3 are using...
Many years ago we bought 2 seats of UG v15 (ADVDES bundles)@ $17,900 a seat and last I checked our Maintenance was around $2500/yr per seat... And as most NX users know maintenance includes software updates, tech support and access to GTAC.
I cannot remember when we got Catia v5, Maybe 2002, A new customer required we have it onsite. Translations were getting costly and it was time for the other user to move on from Camax Camand anyways... It was $33,000 for a HD2 (Hybrid Design), I believe they discounted it to $25,000. HD2 pretty much had same tools as we had with UG... Maintenance for that was $3300/yr for software updates alone... No tech support included. If you wanted that, you paid extra to a 3rd party.
Many years ago we bought 2 seats of UG v15 (ADVDES bundles)@ $17,900 a seat and last I checked our Maintenance was around $2500/yr per seat... And as most NX users know maintenance includes software updates, tech support and access to GTAC.
I cannot remember when we got Catia v5, Maybe 2002, A new customer required we have it onsite. Translations were getting costly and it was time for the other user to move on from Camax Camand anyways... It was $33,000 for a HD2 (Hybrid Design), I believe they discounted it to $25,000. HD2 pretty much had same tools as we had with UG... Maintenance for that was $3300/yr for software updates alone... No tech support included. If you wanted that, you paid extra to a 3rd party.
JohnRBaker
Mechanical
JohnRBaker said:
Some news:
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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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