Fire, Surry Hills Sydney

[Tomfh]

A large fire recently gutted an old building in Sydney.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/s...ry-hills/e377b10f-0d30-48e6-b5f7-faffac4283f5

The freestanding facade is quite a sight:

 

[hokie66]

Big chunks of the walls fell, and the rest are unstable and very hazardous. It was an abandoned building, and should have been demolished.

 

[Tomfh]

It was an abandoned building, and should have been demolished.

Indeed. It's a shame these defective old buildings can't be put out of their misery. Unfortunately the heritage people wield undue influence.

 

[hokie66]

A bunch of 13 year old thugs fixed that. Arson.

 

[rscassar]

As soon as we get a decent wind blowing in Sydney those walls are coming down. Structural Engineers are going to cop it over this one. Same with those aluminium facade panels which kept catching on fire, and the whole debacle with Opal tower. Every historic building in Sydney (over 50 years), is going to have question marks about fire safety. That's a proper collapse that, the seven stories of floor framing is gone, who knows where the fire exit was, looks like the stairs are hanging in the top right of the picture. I'm clueless about how to collapse those walls safely. Might need to get the fire brigade in there and try to water cannon them so they fall inwards.

 

[Tomfh]

It'll be interesting to see how they bring them down. I just hope they see sense and take the opportunity to wipe the slate clean. Already I've heard chatter in the media about the need to "save" as much of what's left as possible.

 

[hokie66]

rscassar,

Why would Structural Engineers cop any blame for this? It's the heritage morons who are to blame, along with perhaps the property owner and the city.

 

[SWComposites]

Crane with a wrecking ball should bring those walls down easily.

 

[dik]

Is there any historical merit in saving the facade? That can be done, too.

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[rscassar]

A building commission was set up by the NSW government for residential buildings after Opal tower, and by in large I think it has done a good job. I am expecting to see something similar here with historic buildings. I know it was a roaring fire but the fire started at 4pm local time and the facade was falling onto the street at 5:15pm. The internal floor framing and columns probably collapsed before then. Even if buildings are 100 years old they need to perform better in fire than this one did.

 

[rscassar]

I've never seen a wrecking ball used in Australia, are they legal?

 

[hokie66]

Get real, dik. There is no heritage value in what remains of this building.

It would be easy to knock the walls down, but not easy to prevent damage to the adjoining buildings.

 

[TugboatEng]

The roof of the building on the right is collapsed but the facade is in tact. Maybe that is the one is the one that will be preserved.

 

[dik]

I was just asking the question, "Is there any historical merit in saving the facade?"... I have no idea if there was any heritage value. I helped stabilise a 3 storey building that was just a shell because of the heritage value. If no value or limited value, it's gone...

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[IRstuff]

At this point, it might be easier to demo all three buildings to put in the hotel complex that was supposed to occupy those slots from scratch.

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[georgeverghese]

How convenient, property development mafia must have been waiting for years to get their filthy paws on this.

 

[hokie66]

Anything would be an improvement for that part of the city.

Demolition is well underway. A big excavator is making short work of it.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/s...nted-for/152c22bc-5c06-4170-9003-873fdde3e198

 

[rscassar]

I saw some of the demo photos this morning. That's some solid brickwork. Certainly don't build brickwork like that these days

 

[hokie66]

Solid, yes. But very little flexural strength. Without reinforcement, it only depends on gravity for stability.