As I mentioned, it is by hourly. If I calculate it back in a few of the projects I have turns out to be about 5-8%, but we don't do the full blown EPCM (I like to control the procurement and running the project myself); on the 'cookie cutters' it is about 1% only, so I guess it falls between what you have heard. I guess it will depend on how much of the EPCM goes to the contracto and how much is done in-house.
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