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Curve Steel Stair Stringer

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engr567

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Aug 21, 2009
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I have a project that involves design of a curve steel stair stringers? How do I start? Help is appreciated!
 
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Those are fun. I designed few of them in the past. I recommend using STAAD or similar software tp model the entire stair structural system.

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Lutfi
 
I agree that a Finite Element analysis is great for these, even if you have to model the curve in short segments. Be careful with open sections as the AISC Design Guide for complete warping torsion checks are not part of most packages. If you can use a closed shape (HSS Rectangle) life is easier. Finally, consult with a fabricator or steel bender to find out what shapes can be bent before you go too far. I see advertisers in Modern Steel Construction all the time.
 
I must agree with SethGuthroie, use closed steel sections. They work well in resisting torsion. There are specialized fabricators who will bend and curve them and they come out stunning when done. Of course with help from the architect who will cover up the structure.

The links below will take you to two pictures of two curved stairs that were in the same building:



Have fun and nice weekend



Regards,
Lutfi
 
"the AISC Design Guide for complete warping torsion checks are not part of most packages"

Just curious on this point- is the design guide in question applicable to anything besides straight beams anyway?
 
We design these frequently. We use Risa, since the design examples for stairs assume they are straight spans. We typically use plate or HSS material for the stringers. And depending on the tightness of the curve HSS sections may need to fabricated from plate. There are several subtle considerations in the design and connections. An experienced fabricator or detailer may be able to provide some suggestions. Or, there are designers that have experience in these conditions.

 
We build these from time to time. Steel channel seems to be the preferred material as the flanges help to highlight the helical shape. Typically oversized stair treads are used to help reinforce the stringers. I will say that shop drawings from which fabricators can produce these are a headache. As a starting point you can analyze the stringers as equivalent straight members in combined bending and torsion.
 
I like the part where everyone recommends going straight to software for a solution. Not that I can come up with a better recommendation.

I have done only one of these and I used tubes as the stringers.
 
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