chessiebear
Structural
- Dec 14, 2001
- 9
Greetings all-
Client asked me a while back about putting a new opening in an existing 2-way flat plate structure. I said 'stay within the mid-midlle and were going to be in good shape'. And they took that, literally and sold the alterations to the Owner.
Their intent is to remove the entire panel from column strip to columns strip. The whole mid-middle strip. There would need to be some new hangers from the slab to support the stair, but the net loading appears to be less than the combined dead and live load previously in place. I believe that it can be 'tricked' into redistributing the new loading pattern to the remaining slab.
What am trying to get my head around the requiement from ACI 13.4.2.1- "Openings of any size shall be permitted on the area common to the intesecting middle srips, provided total amount of reinforcemtn required for the panel without opening is maintained." Building was designed in 72-73 so I am guessing the '71 code. The same verbage is there under a different section number.
Since the entire panel is coming out, I am not seeing the reason for continuty as the bottom bars all end at point 0.15ln from the column centerline.
I see 2 different solutions but wanted to see what the community might advise;
1. Apply FRP to the perimeter to equal the capacity of the bottom bars in each direction? It would be equivalent to 15-#4 in each directions, so about 75k on each side of the opening.
2. Install steel beam grillage underneath, coring holes through the 9" slab and welding shear connectors to it making it minimum composite to take the bars strength in horizontal shear?
Using 0.22ln bar cutoff from face of support, I literally clear the mid-mid panel by 1".
Thanks in advance.
CB
Client asked me a while back about putting a new opening in an existing 2-way flat plate structure. I said 'stay within the mid-midlle and were going to be in good shape'. And they took that, literally and sold the alterations to the Owner.
Their intent is to remove the entire panel from column strip to columns strip. The whole mid-middle strip. There would need to be some new hangers from the slab to support the stair, but the net loading appears to be less than the combined dead and live load previously in place. I believe that it can be 'tricked' into redistributing the new loading pattern to the remaining slab.
What am trying to get my head around the requiement from ACI 13.4.2.1- "Openings of any size shall be permitted on the area common to the intesecting middle srips, provided total amount of reinforcemtn required for the panel without opening is maintained." Building was designed in 72-73 so I am guessing the '71 code. The same verbage is there under a different section number.
Since the entire panel is coming out, I am not seeing the reason for continuty as the bottom bars all end at point 0.15ln from the column centerline.
I see 2 different solutions but wanted to see what the community might advise;
1. Apply FRP to the perimeter to equal the capacity of the bottom bars in each direction? It would be equivalent to 15-#4 in each directions, so about 75k on each side of the opening.
2. Install steel beam grillage underneath, coring holes through the 9" slab and welding shear connectors to it making it minimum composite to take the bars strength in horizontal shear?
Using 0.22ln bar cutoff from face of support, I literally clear the mid-mid panel by 1".
Thanks in advance.
CB