Coparison pro/nc vs ug cam vs catia

[dibz]

HI ALL
ANY ONE OUT THERE FOR A COMPARISON BETWEEN PRO/NC vs UG NX CAM vs Catia/nc vs delcam,,
experts in softwares other than pro/nc are most welcome.
Thanks

 

[dibz]

Hi
people says , ug cam and delcam are the best cam softwares,
is tht true?,
what all can they do more than proe/nc?

 

[marker4x4]

Hi

people says , ug cam and delcam are the best cam softwares,

is tht true?,

what all can they do more than proe/nc?

Those questions don't make much sense IMHO.... what's "best"? What kind of work do you do? Would that be mostly production or one-offs? Moulds? Prototypes? 3/4/5-axis?

Personally, I came from the CATIA V4 world and for me CATIA is the best CAM software ever. But it comes at the hefty price and for most shops it's out of a question. ProE certainly provides the most bang for the buck with their recent pricing; $5000 for the CAD/CAM licence (Expert Machinist) that's unheard of. Another $12.000 or so puts you in the 5-axis seat.... go PTC.

Again, what you're comfortable with and does job for you will be the best.
Just my .02

 

[dibz]

It s
all rite i am pointing out the capabilities of these cams,
i m not worried about the pricing and kinds of job done,
it is just to let every one know about different softwares.

u says catia is best but as per my knowledge catia cam has just come in to the market,
Edited by: dibz

 

[shamus]

Hi


We have recently moved to Pro/E, previously using Visi from Vero. Visi has been doing machining since DOS days, and is excellent. When I compare it to Pro/E, Pro/E falls way short (although I must admit I am still learning Pro/E's machining module!) One downside to Visi is that it is not parametric.


Using Visi, you don't get dips or spikes in your machining, and you also have something called rest material machining, where you can finish corners not able to be cleaned out with previous cutters, and once it starts machining, it hardly ever leaves contact until it finishes the corner. In Pro/E there is local milling by previous tool, but it doesn't compare!


We machined something in Pro/E, and all looked fine until we visualised on VeriCut, and saw it machining into the side, and then posted out and checked in another progran call WNSEE, and showed the same machining into the side! As I said, just learning the machining module, so maybe we have missed a setting somewhere?


Shaun

 

[dibz]

Hi
i dint get what u said "machining into the side".
u have option for corner milling in local milling

and if u want to reduce retracts , use zigzag option
Edited by: dibz

 

[shamus]

By machining into the side, I mean machining into a cavity wall, i.e. gouging into a cavity wall.


Shaun

 

[shamus]

Further to your zigzag option, in Visi, it will cut in one direction only, going around the outer edge of the corner, then stepping in slightly into the corner by your step over, and always going in the same direction. Can I send you (dibz) a picture?


Shaun

 

[dibz]

hi
please send

 

[shamus]

2006-06-20_033057_Machining.zip


This file includes 2 pics of Visi machining from to and isometric, and one of Pro/E machining. The gouge is shown in purple.


Shaun

 

[dibz]

HI
can u send me ur mfg files, may be somthing with the setting,
and which is that software u r using for varification,
where did u purchace it
Edited by: dibz

 

[shamus]

The software is called WNSEE - pronounced win-en-see - it is only a demo version that came with our very first purchase of Visi, it needs the Visi dongle to run. It works very well.


What do you think of the machining path generated by Visi?


Unfortunately I can't send you the files you need as the company will not allow it. Are there possibly configuration files I can send?


Shaun

 

[dibz]

Hi
to rectfy the problem i need all mfg files, we will have to see all the manufacturing settings,
and this problem could be rectified and corrected 100 persent .
And also i am using this lacal milling option for almost all things since years successfully,
never had a problem yet
Edited by: dibz

 

[shamus]

Just further, the problem we can sort out by changing rapid type from smart where it doesrapiding inside the cavity. But why give this smart option if it doesn't work?


Also, 2 options to join rapids, from end point to start point, othes is s-type where it will follow the geometry. Does this mean that the first type will go through the geometry?


Shaun

 

[dibz]

Hi
where do u find smart and rapid, is it retract option?, or feed option?,

 

[shamus]

I had smart on the retract option

 

[dibz]

OK
smart is very rarely used for some specific purposes.

and giv a value for free feed and retract feed,if u leave it as 0 proe will gernerate rapid codes, rapid codes are dangerous in highspeed milling,

 

[shamus]

With regard to the bottom?


Also, 2 options to join rapids, from end point to start point, othes is s-type where it will follow the geometry. Does this mean that the first type will go through the geometry?


Thanks for your help so far.


Shaun

 

[marker4x4]

u says catia is best but as per my knowledge catia cam has just come in to the market,

???? CATIA CAM has been around since mainframes and so (almost) was I

 

[Zaki]

Hi guys


Interseting topic, in my opinion, the designing power is the main consideration in CAD/CAM, u can finish ur machining in one step in a software and in two or three in another software, but designing power is the main thing, I like pro very much bcoze of its desining power and perametric technology. I had designed a lot of parts, molds, machines and so on.