structuralecstasy
Structural
- Sep 12, 2003
- 11
Hello all,
I am working on a steel structure in a high-seismic zone area, and the question arose about restraining the bottom flange for lateral-torsional buckling since the vertical seismic loads are large and reversible. As a general rule of thumb at my company, we use 3" as a maximum difference in TOS (or BOS) for the shorter beam to laterally brace the corresponding flange of the beam it frames into.
My question does not directly have to do with that rule of thumb, but rather if anyone has an opinion on whether the compression flange of the beam could actually buckle during a seismic event. It seems to me that the extremely short load durations at the peak response of the structure would not be long enough to cause the compression flange to buckle, especially since the load will alternate between the positive and negative moment several times during the event. Is compression flange buckling a sudden catastrophic event, or does it need some time to deform and twist the member first?
My current design has top flange restraints (same TOS) and bottom flange restraints where the incident beams are 3" or less deeper than the collector beam. I have a few cases where the bottom flanges are 4" or 5" apart and I will have a better peace of mind justifying that the bottom flange of the deeper beam is braced by the shorter member if there is a small likelihood of the compression flange actually buckling during a seismic event.
Thanks for your help!
I am working on a steel structure in a high-seismic zone area, and the question arose about restraining the bottom flange for lateral-torsional buckling since the vertical seismic loads are large and reversible. As a general rule of thumb at my company, we use 3" as a maximum difference in TOS (or BOS) for the shorter beam to laterally brace the corresponding flange of the beam it frames into.
My question does not directly have to do with that rule of thumb, but rather if anyone has an opinion on whether the compression flange of the beam could actually buckle during a seismic event. It seems to me that the extremely short load durations at the peak response of the structure would not be long enough to cause the compression flange to buckle, especially since the load will alternate between the positive and negative moment several times during the event. Is compression flange buckling a sudden catastrophic event, or does it need some time to deform and twist the member first?
My current design has top flange restraints (same TOS) and bottom flange restraints where the incident beams are 3" or less deeper than the collector beam. I have a few cases where the bottom flanges are 4" or 5" apart and I will have a better peace of mind justifying that the bottom flange of the deeper beam is braced by the shorter member if there is a small likelihood of the compression flange actually buckling during a seismic event.
Thanks for your help!