> personally, i would have thought there was a difference between a good FE education and a good stress education.
You think right, and I didn't imply there wasn't one either. Unless you're very fortunate, very few people get an education - in the strict sense - in FE. You can learn the basics in uni., and you may be in a position to write your own code (where you gain a real understanding of the basic principles of FE), but the real learning comes from applying the basic principles learned, as well as practical experience, and making lots and lots and lots of mistakes. With the lots of mistakes also come lots and lots of lessons. Half the battle when you're starting out is accepting that age means experience means you listen means you learn. Amen.