sjrfc2
Mechanical
- Aug 10, 2005
- 67
104.3.1 (C) indicates that calcs don't have to be performed on reinforced branch connection as long as the fitting and the weld meet 104.3.1 (D). This seems to steer the user into doing the reinforcement calcs. It seems a little contradictory but my question really has to do with what is the required weld size.
With the MSS SP-97 fittings I think there is the assumption that you weld to the outside of the bevel but you don't see that called out. This would be the assumption with matched pipe and fittings. I'm really interested in overmatched fittings.
We have standard weldolets and use them on thin-walled piping (Sch 10). If we weld out to the end of the bevel, we run the risk of collapsing the pipe due to weld shrinkage. Pipe Fabrication Institute ES-49 discusses this.
We'll have plenty of reinforcement because its such a beefy fitting but taking that to the extreme, you'd need very little weld (really no weld per the calc) to meet Code. This obviously isn't the intent but we're trying to establish what weld thickness is required to transfer stress to the fitting (where we're taking credit for the reinforcement) as well as provide a good weld for mechanical loading since the reinforcement calcs are only for pressure. One thought would be to limit area of reinforcement parallelagram to OD of weld but I figured I'd see if anyone else had run through this.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this.
With the MSS SP-97 fittings I think there is the assumption that you weld to the outside of the bevel but you don't see that called out. This would be the assumption with matched pipe and fittings. I'm really interested in overmatched fittings.
We have standard weldolets and use them on thin-walled piping (Sch 10). If we weld out to the end of the bevel, we run the risk of collapsing the pipe due to weld shrinkage. Pipe Fabrication Institute ES-49 discusses this.
We'll have plenty of reinforcement because its such a beefy fitting but taking that to the extreme, you'd need very little weld (really no weld per the calc) to meet Code. This obviously isn't the intent but we're trying to establish what weld thickness is required to transfer stress to the fitting (where we're taking credit for the reinforcement) as well as provide a good weld for mechanical loading since the reinforcement calcs are only for pressure. One thought would be to limit area of reinforcement parallelagram to OD of weld but I figured I'd see if anyone else had run through this.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this.