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welding 4140 to st 37

welding 4140 to st 37

welding 4140 to st 37

(OP)
hello,

I need info about welding (corner weld 2 passes) st 37 on a 4140 shaft. Can this be welded with 16%Cr and 65 % Ni electrode ?

RE: welding 4140 to st 37

Don't know what st37 is, but you should give a lot of consideration to the HAZ of the 4140, which will probably be quite hard and brittle if you don't use enough preheat.  Post weld HT is better.

RE: welding 4140 to st 37

Are you referring to ENiCrFe2 type of electrode? I.e. Inco-Weld A from |Special Metals for e.g. Refer this link for details http://www.specialmetalswelding.com/products/incoweld/incoweldwea.htm
Yes, this consumable can be used for the application detailed. Refer to Metalguy's words of caution though.
Metalguy
for St37 refer following posts:
Thread330-62886 refersa to St37 which is equivalent of S235
Thread330-56039 refers to USt37-2 which is equivalent of A283
Finally see the last post in Thread330-17608 which explains what St37 stands for!!!

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RE: welding 4140 to st 37

(OP)
Metalguy,

Thanks for reply
Shaft will be preheated at 250degree C(482 degree F) . After welding, the shaft will be "insulated" during some time, so cooling will be slowly.

St 37 Analyse : %C <=0.17
                %Si <= 0.55
                %Mn <=1.60
                %P <=0.04
                %S <=0.04

RE: welding 4140 to st 37

Your intended preheat is pretty good, but I'd go even higher.  What you want to do is avoid cooling thru the range of ~1,300 to 1,000 deg F too fast.  This will allow time for the austenite in the HAZ to transform to pearlite.

I did a little study with a low alloy steel (P3) welded with the worst case-a single pass.  Preheating to 400 deg. F. wasn't high enough, but we never did go back and try higher temps.

RE: welding 4140 to st 37

Must you use that much Cr in a weld joint?

RE: welding 4140 to st 37

(OP)
JimMetalsCeramics,

This is a proposal from manufacturer

RE: welding 4140 to st 37

If your stuck with it, I would use a high preheat and a slow-cool down. But it's too Cr-rich for my tastes.

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