Underground protective pipe calculation
Underground protective pipe calculation
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Does anyone have calculation formulas for how to calculate moments and forces per meter for a pipe loaded like this(as in the picture below), which is actually a buried protection pipe of an oil pipeline?
In other words, how to calculate stresses and thus determine whether the adopted thickness of the protection pipe is okay?
Thanks in advance :)
In other words, how to calculate stresses and thus determine whether the adopted thickness of the protection pipe is okay?
Thanks in advance :)
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
External loads on a buried pipe combine with internal pressures and thermal expansion stresses resulting in complex stresses in a pipe, such stresses being limited by pipeline design codes. There are around 20 popular common pipe and pipeline design codes, not including additional national laws and regulations in almost every country that you must be familiar with to design pipe and pipeline systems. Selecting the appropriate pipeline codes to use depends on many factors, including system purpose and function, chemical plant, transportation by pipeline, power generation, class of internal product, (water, gas, liquid, oil, natural gas, drinking water), type of gas or liquid, or both, degree of hazard, pipe material selection, country, client, design pressure, design temperature, location (onshore or off). If you have enough experience to do such work, you will already know which pipeline design code(s) will apply to your situation. If you do not have the required experience, you are not even allowed to work on designing these systems until you have it. Otherwise it is usually a crime. If in doubt, you should consult your company's legal department.
--Einstein gave the same test to students every year. When asked why he would do something like that, "Because the answers had changed."
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
--Einstein gave the same test to students every year. When asked why he would do something like that, "Because the answers had changed."
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
Try looking at api rp 1102.
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RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
You could use Roark's Formulas in conjunction with
You might also use the Iowa or Spangler's formula.
https://becht.com/becht-blog/entry/loads-on-buried...
And
https://www.nwpipe.com/app/uploads/2020/08/Trench-...
https://concretepipe.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/0...
--Einstein gave the same test to students every year. When asked why he would do something like that, "Because the answers had changed."
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
Sleeves are nowadays normally seen as a bad thing for many reasons. Look at the pipeline design codes to see if a sleeve is actually required.
I sense that you're over complicating this which is not required.
A bit more detail wouldn't go astray.
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RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
I recently found out that there will also be a part of the pipeline route that will go under the road but without a protective pipe, which means that in addition to the load from the ground and traffic, the internal pressure will also be taken into account, and I don't know why they attribute that calculation to me (civil engineer) if the working pipe with oil along the entire route, the mechanical engineer calculates.
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
--Einstein gave the same test to students every year. When asked why he would do something like that, "Because the answers had changed."
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
Railways are a work of their own and its normally settlement they are paranoid about.
Usually the pipeline engineer does this and they (we) are multi discipline.... Again RP 1192 is the go to calculation for uncased crossings.
Your coming up as South Africa? What pipeline code do you use down there?
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RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
RE: Underground protective pipe calculation
There are plenty of free copies out there or online calculators. So the European standards do cover this.
For a sleeve pipe just do the same calc as for a working pipeline but with no or very low internal design pressure. It's the same pipe with the same loads so you can use it.
Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.