3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
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Bit of a strange situation where a building owner has a 3 phase electrical system (for educational/assembly building roughly 18,000 sq.ft). They installed a 3 phase motor (I assume it's actually a motor based on what owner said). No one actually knows why this "motor" was installed. They assume it was installed to balance the building loads.
Motor was installed 10 years ago. Recently, building inspector told them this motor is of no use and to shut it off. So they did and it fried all sensitive type branch circuits, such as hvac controllers, lighting equipment, etc. etc.
Any thoughts?
(my thoughts are that the shut-off caused over-voltage spike that fried everything)
Motor was installed 10 years ago. Recently, building inspector told them this motor is of no use and to shut it off. So they did and it fried all sensitive type branch circuits, such as hvac controllers, lighting equipment, etc. etc.
Any thoughts?
(my thoughts are that the shut-off caused over-voltage spike that fried everything)
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
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RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
That gets real expensive, real fast.
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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
Converting energy to motion for more than half a century
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
If you were to have 3 conditions of a grounded center tap in the synchronous motor, a ground fault on any line, and an open neutral then opening the contactor for the synchronous condenser would cause your 2/3 of your low voltage circuits to rise to line voltage. The ground fault will not clear itself due to the open neutral.
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
The synchronous condenser is a good idea too, but generally those are for really large facilities with lots of induction motor loads. "Educational/assembly building" doesn't sound like a place that would have the need of a synchronous condenser.
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RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
There were six autogenous ore mills, each driven by a pair of 3000 HP wound rotor motors.
The mills needed the breakaway torque of wound rotor motors to start turning under 100 tons of ore.
Also, synchronous motors are challenging to load share when run mechanically coupled together.
One method of load sharing that I have read about was a micrometer adjustable coupling.
Possible but not easy at 3000 HP.
With paired synchronous motors, one motor is run and the phase angle other motor's generated potential is checked.
The phase angles are adjusted as close as possible by changing the tooth matching on a common ring gear and the final adjustment made with the micrometer coupling.
As well as the 36000 HP of main motors there were a couple of acres of flotation cells with 5 to 10 HP motors.
There was a fairly large building just to house the synchronous condensers.
The liquid rheostats for starting those motors were interesting as well.
Three rheostats, two working and one spare.
Then a large assortment of contactors.
Any two rheostats could be used to start any pair of motors.
As jraef said; Synchronous condensers are for really large systems, and then as a second choice after oversized synchronous motors.
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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
Some good pictures would help, otherwise who knows and everything is just guesses.
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried
The delta must close on itself. Any imbalance on the primary (eg; Unbalanced system) will cause a circulating current in the delta which will work to equalize the primary voltages.
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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!
RE: 3 phase motor disconnected - everything fried