Dear Sir, I'm trying to passivate
Dear Sir, I'm trying to passivate
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Dear Sir,
I'm trying to passivate GRADE.SS303 with dilution of 10% Nitric Acid and Water 90%.But, not getting proper surface result.Observed surface looks some whitish colour marks looking for help.Please have a look at photo for understanding.please suggest me a way,Thanks a lot
I'm trying to passivate GRADE.SS303 with dilution of 10% Nitric Acid and Water 90%.But, not getting proper surface result.Observed surface looks some whitish colour marks looking for help.Please have a look at photo for understanding.please suggest me a way,Thanks a lot
RE: Dear Sir, I'm trying to passivate
RE: Dear Sir, I'm trying to passivate
10% nitric at RT isn't going to passivate (clean) properly.
303 can be problematic since it has such low corrosion resistance due to the deliberate inclusions.
If the white isn't visible to start with you can be assured that your solution has nothing to do with it other than making it obvious.
The variation in surface finish must be pre-existing.
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RE: Dear Sir, I'm trying to passivate
Thanks, For sharing your knowledgefull views.Actually, I have followed standard practice ASTM A380 only.Further i will take a look to A967 too as suggested by you.But, the thing is white marks (what's it exactly) is it frosting And I'm sure this white marks not present before Passivation. It's formed after passivation process.Is there any way to get this marks cleanout.
Note : Before Passivation there is machine oil present on the surface can it will be cause for thus marks & also are this marks are acceptable or it will cause any rejection.Please help me out.Thanks again
RE: Dear Sir, I'm trying to passivate
A straight nitric will not etch the surface, the condition must be pre-existing.
The passivation could be making it more visible but it wouldn't cause it.
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RE: Dear Sir, I'm trying to passivate
Per AMS2700... Method 1 passivation [conventional acid] treatments for all 303 CREs have somewhat unique passivation chemistry requirements... and the chemistries aren't even close to Your description.
Of course Method 2, citric acid chemistry seems to apply to most CR steels universally... but has it's own unique issues.
OH YES in every instance 'bath chemistry' must be strictly monitored/controlled, per ARP4992, Periodic Test Plan for Process Solutions. Where I work, there is a 'push' to method 2... simply because of general environmental, toxicity and disposal issues... but there is 'learning curve'.
Other info, 'good-to-know'.
AMS-STD-753 Corrosion-Resistant Steel Parts: Sampling, Inspection and Testing for Surface Passivation
When bath passivation is not possible... such as for field units [remote sites]... and passivation of 3xx SStl parts is required... then I have a 'field-fallback' I've used for years with moderate success... training and adhering to tech procedures per per USAF T.O. 1-1-691 is/are required for [A] and [B]. When is done/removed to expose clean bare-SStl the surface develops a natural/thin passivation film.
A. Apply PPG-Semco Pasa-Jell 101 to chemically 'clean/scrubbed [scotchbrite] surfaces and deburred edges'. This develops a thin passivation film 'good-enough' for epoxy primer adhesion in structural repairs. This is 'jelled-form' of phosphoric acid that is easier to control on small surfaces. https://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1680273436/tips/PPG_Semco_Pasa-Jell_Gnrl_PDS_l7csh1.pdf
B. Another option is phosphoric acid cleaner per MIL-C-10578 Type III.
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