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A disaster before it even sailed...

A disaster before it even sailed...

A disaster before it even sailed...

(OP)
Granted, this is not a classical 'engineering disaster' but when anything this outrageous is proposed, I would hope that at least one engineer would have pointed out that it might not be all that practical:

From record-setter to rubbish: World’s biggest cruise ship to be scrapped without sailing a single voyage

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/article/from-reco...

I can't imagine what it would be like to be on a ship with 9,000 other passengers. My wife and I have been on three cruises, the first was a cruise of the Alaska inside passage. About 2,000 passengers and it was fine.

The second cruise was a six-day barge cruise through the canal system from Strasbourg, France, up over the Vosges Mountains, to Nancy. 16 passengers and five crew, now that's the way to cruise.

Our last cruise was four years ago, a six-day island hopping cruise in Hawaii. About 3,000 passengers. Any more than that, and it would have been a real drag.

Anyway, if I never go on a cruise again, I won't miss it.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
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RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

I've done cruises on 400 passenger boats, and it was very pleasant. Kinda boring when you're at sea, but I brought LOTS of books.

Was also on one of the Crystal ships, but only 1000 people. Not bad, either. About as big a boat as I would want to cruise on. Went through the Panama Canal--excellent!

I will say that both lines had/have really excellent crews.

The only way I'd get on one of those behemoths is if it were the last boat out of a port that was going to be nuked.



spsalso

RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

This was a cruise ship that targeted the communist Chinese market. They're more used to the high density lifestyle. It only failed because the owners bailed on the contract. It will be interesting to see how this trickles down on the German economy. It was one of their specialties.

RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

Yes, the big Royal Caribbean Oasis class ships, the same size as the now scrapped Dream Cruises ships, will carry 6600 passengers, much too many IMHO. But the Chinese ships would have been crammed like sardine cans, and they like it that way. About 2000 is optimum. More is too crowded in ports, and fewer means less to do on board.

RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

A nice thing you can do with a 400 passenger boat is go through the Cape Cod Canal.


spsalso

RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

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Or a barge with only 16 passengers, you can enjoy the French countryside at a pace that's more leisurely than if you had walked it. In fact, we did that several times, get out while locking-up and then walking what used to be the tow-path to the next lock or maybe even the one after that, as they were spaced about two to three kilometers apart on most of the approximately 100 kilometer route that our barge cruise covered in six days.

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RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

Technically, they're not a disaster, per se; since they've neither endangered passengers, nor sustained any damage, at least, not until the oxygen lances start chopping them up winky smile

One possible benefit of that many passengers is that there'll likely be more choices for eating, since they'd need way more restaurants.

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RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

I've only been on two cruises.

Both were on the USS John POPE a WWII Transport Ship.
New York to Europe. 9 days.
At the end of the cruise, which included a massive storm that laid almost everyone low, the crew stated, "That was the worst storm in decades".

Three years later same ship, Europe to New York. 9 days.
Huge storm. Crew stated, "Worst storm since the one three years ago."

Loved both once I got my sea legs. About 800 people and 100 pets. Sadly about 1/3 of the pets died on the first trip since no one could care for them.

Keith Cress
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RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

Keith, Are you being ironic? Looks to me like this was a navy vessel all its life?

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RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

Not really. I was an army kid and the military transported families via that ship. Sucks now that they fly people instead. :)

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

They used use the landing craft to ship the mil UK family's etc across the English channel to postings to Germany.

Some extremely unhappy wives after the got subjected to that. Then they started using the Tristars. It's was debatable which was worse as not many liked facing backwards in an aircraft.

RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

The US Navy also has both Tiger cruises and civilian mariners, so civis being shipboard isnt particularly uncommon today.

RE: A disaster before it even sailed...

The company that owns these ships gets a significant chunk of their profits from gambling casinos. It was just recently when I learned how directly involved these casinos are involved in the international money laundering business, much of it derived from Asian drugs and entertainment. Casinos from Vancouver to
Macao, Sydney and Perth owned by big businesses. Good riddance to these rats.

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