Heat Gain for Computers
Heat Gain for Computers
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I am interested in what values other engineers use or resources they pull from for calculating an 'average' heat load for a desktop computer. I would have replied to this post: thread403-217429: Heat Gain from Computers, but it was closed a while ago, plus I feel like the information and resources there are now out of date (~14 years old at this point). I usually just use a standard value of 75 W. Thanks!
RE: Heat Gain for Computers
note there is a trend to use dual-monitors (I have two 43") and more powerful PCs unless we talk about simple admin work. Ultimately you almost to see how large cubicles are. The smaller, the more people (and monitors) per 10000 ft². Best to look at what the office layout and potential future expansion will look like. where i work, they squeeze more and more people into the same space (we now have 7x7 cubicles) and it started out at twice that size. So now in March we have 78°F in the office! so my 1W/ft² may not be enough.
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As a general rule in my company, lower-level employees are situated two per 10x10 cubicle, while more senior employees are in same 10x10 cubicle by themselves or in walled offices that are more like 15x12.
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RE: Heat Gain for Computers
Yes, new PCs and monitors are more efficient. But now we have 2 large LED monitors vs. one small CRT monitor. We also use 8+-core CPUs with powerful graphics cards. Laptops aren't really powerful for productivity work, like BIM. So unless you know this office just uses Excel and Word, I wouldn't assume a low power PC. Some people also end up with a desktop and a tablet (although not used simultaneously). The use of the office also may change during the life of the HVAC system and who knows how many big monitors etc. we will use in 10 years. There probably is a limit to how many people they can squeeze in an office and my 7x7 is as small as it gets. But I also saw 6x6 cubicles. Next office will look like a chicken farm. That obviously will increase power-density.
Most CPUs for "real" desktops are rated 65-90W TDP. and that is at base speed. It goes way above when they increase clock-speed and typically are limited by cooling. but the new Intel 8-core CPUs easily go over 200W. And that is just the CPU.... you also have a motherboard, power supply, RAM, SSD etc. Desktops typically don't run at full speed all the time, but I would assume at least 100W continuously. Then the 16-core PCs.... There is a reason the smallest brand name power supplies are rated to 400+W on the DC side (more on AC, which matters for cooling load). and 400W PSU is for low level PCs.
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I use a rule of thumb for modern (2020+) desktop computers. Typical i5/i7, two monitors: 250W or 900 BTUs. Now add another 50-100W or 170-340 BTUs for misc equipment such as iPads, LED desk lamps, printers, chargers, etc. Those numbers do not sound like much, but a room full can almost heat an office in the winter here in Seattle and make summers uncomfortable unless planned for in the HVAC design.
Powerful desktops with multi-core i7/i9 processors and large GPUs can easily hit 1,000W or 3,400 BTUs. Those computers will make a cubicle very warm.
RE: Heat Gain for Computers
RE: Heat Gain for Computers
Nameplate power also isn't useful since that is the design power, not typical power use. And a PC doesn't have a nameplate that shows power use. Best you can get is the PSU data, but that is much higher than the components installed.
Some manufacturers give you the electrical data, and a separate cooling load. but this is more for servers, switches etc. but gain, you also don't design a server room or switch closet for specific equipment that may be obsolete in a year, but you use design values.
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This budget is not as simple as reading the spec sheet or nameplate. CPUs are variable speed, have low power modes, sleep modes, and full-on computing high power modes. Just like we must calculate heating and cooling BTUs by using numbers, heating degree days, R-values, etc, and not guesses, we must also actually measure what a computer uses over an extended period of time and during peak power consumption during office working hours. During nights and weekends, most systems should be configured to go to sleep reducing power consumption. It is during the working hours when people are also present that the loads must be managed for people's comfort.
Note: when we design an office or data center, we do specify the estimated power consumption of all equipment. In high-density workplaces, this is an important item to determine, for example, the minimum CFM for HVAC cooling. Assuming that equipment is ordered every thirty months in volume, the power requirements can be factored into purchase decisions. That process can provide a feedback loop to the mechanical engineering department so that they can forecast future HVAC requirements. The days of over-provisioning must go away as net-zero buildings become a reality and not a dream.
Now some will say, "but we cannot estimate or forecast what equipment will be used." In some rare cases that might be true. However, a budget would be designed and then that budget can be incorporated into future planning or, for example, a lease or purchase agreement. Just like power plants have peaker plants, modern buildings can also have standby equipment that can absorb peak and/or unexpected loads.
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I would really love if the days of "over-provisioning" were over, but at least at my workplace, it is still a ways away.
@John Hanley, are you able to recommend a power usage meter? I may be able to ask my boss to see if we could get one. And is it a kind that is permanently installed or temporarily 'plugged' in somewhere (I'm assuming it's between the computer and the outlet). Thanks for all the help again. Highly appreciated from someone relatively new to this field.
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We do the same with lighting and humans. You don't measure the metabolic rate of each person who currently works there, you use design numbers (ASHRAE has them for different activities). There will be past and future humans who will be outside the "standard" metabolic rates. That is a whole other discussion, but there is a trend of humans (in the US at least) to get bigger. So the metabolic rates likely will increase. who knows... use what ASHRAE or code requires and use some judgment to slightly increase those values if needed. If you get a good idea on maximum future occupant loads (and each occupant added adds computers, but doesn't add lighting), you'll be fine. As alluded, there is a maximum number of people that can be squeezed in a space. So there is your maximum.
Lighting still would stay at W/ft². but you could tie plug load to number of people instead of W/ft². More people use the coffee machine more, have more computers, print more etc. That way if you adjust for more people you will automatically adjust the plugload, ventilation, and people load.
if you micro-analyze every actual current setup, you will find 3 different office of the same size will have different loads today. Do you design each office differently? No... because next year they switch offices and the one person with the powerful workstation will move into the office that just had a tablet. Your design needs to be robust enough for "office use".