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Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.
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Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

(OP)
Continued from Potential Disaster in the Making.
https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=487413
Definitely fulfilling every bit of its potential.
This is probably the worst disaster, excluding loss of life events, to hit Spain in a very long time. Nobody has died, but many lost a lifetime. Buried. Gone.

At least one bit of good news here.

Surprise Development!

This sign was discovered this morning.

Strength to La Palma! The dogs are fine!
signed: "A-team".



Video https://diariodeavisos.elespanol.com/2021/10/un-co...

The A-Team has rescued the dogs trapped by the lava. Frustrated by the lack of action on the part of the authorities in approving the much anticipated air rescue attempt, The "A-Team", a group of animal activists took matters into their own hands. Apparently they mounted a covert operation sometime on Tuesday night and successfully slipped in past the police and around the roadblocks to rescue the dogs. The identity of the A Team agents and the present location of the dogs is being held secret, so as they cannot be prosecuted for violation of the security rules.

This story cannot yet be verified, but we hope it is true and that the dogs have indeed been rescued.


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I love it when a plan comes together!

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rofl2 blues peace puppy thumbsup2 tiphat

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Now it's only a matter of time before they're taking us away in nets flown by drones!

Joking aside, great news if true.

Precision guess work based on information provided by those of questionable knowledge

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(OP)
Unfortunately the authorities here, or anybody really, are definitely not famous for their speedy pace of action. Sometimes the only thing you can do is act and pay the fine later... if you get caught. Let's hope they made a clean getaway. All's well that ends well.

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(OP)
19 10 2021 19:13 UTC

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Hot Dog!

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

That's great! Love those stories. It always galls the hell out me when the so called 'authorities' stop people from making potential saves. I have no doubt after our recent fire here that more than 1/4 of the lost homes and irreplaceable items could've easily been saved except for the dumb-ass authorities and their tiny minds.

You see so many abandoned cars and a block of parked Concrete Trucks that sat there for probably weeks before getting buried. Why would you leave that hardware to just be destroyed?

44 can you show on the Lava Map where the dogs were trapped?

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

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(OP)
Most places you go here to ask an official to do something, anything really, their first answer is NO. You can't do that and give you some totally illogical reason. Then you spend the next 90min explaining to them what they said isn't logical, that yes they can do it and telling them how. I needed a residence certificate today and the guy saw that my ID had expired, so he could not give me one. I had to explain to him that the paper I put right next to my expired ID was the ID's renewal affirmation, which I have to carry around with me until the Policia National can get my new one printed up and mailed to me... in about 60 days.

At Dog Rescue OP was at the stock tank in this video, which puts them at 28°36.901'N, 17°53.459'W
https://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x84zyi8?ap...



Dog_Rescue.kmz attached

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Thanks. Those dogs we on a truly tiny island of safety. Wow. How lame for them to have been abandoned in the first place. I can easily see the owners saying, "I have to get my animals!" And some authoritarian numskull drone parroting, "No one is allowed there. It's too dangerous." Then it taking a week for the place to be surrounded. Sigh.

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

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(OP)


After the cone broke.



What's really hard to believe is the amount of lava that covered the landscape in just one month. It just goes on and on.

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I guess it will be worse when the openings works it's way down the cone "hill" getting closer to the "source".
And thumbsup2 for the pictures.


“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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(OP)




Yet on the east side of the island in Santa Cruz, life goes about quite normally, at least when there is no ash fall.













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(OP)
24 10 2021 18:50 UTC


24 10 2021 07:14 UTC


23 10 2021 07:14 UTC

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This map is kinda neat...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

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(OP)
10cm rise in the topography and 17 of 280 quakes >3 during the last 24h.
SO2 40.4tn/day. Its not going to stop anytime soon.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Ops !! hopes Teide stays a sleep..

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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(OP)
Another 3.1 quake felt here this afternoon.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Hmm are you worried?

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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(OP)
4.5 can be bad at the surface. 13km down, not so much.

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We have earth quakes here too, I remember at least two, the last one was this one.

Quote:

2016: March 19. At 22:55, an earthquake with a magnitude of 4.1 occurred in the Gulf of Bothnia, approximately 47 km outside Kinnbäck between Piteå and Skellefteå. Reports of the quake came from Sundsvall in the south to Gällivare in the north, and from the Finnish coast.

It felt like a truck had run into the house, like everything moved 5 cm and the back again.
But there is never any damage on things on the surface.



“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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(OP)
I've been in 6 over Mag 5. 2x Turkey. 2x Colombia, 1 Dubai via Iran, 1 Venezuela. The Venezuelan one was actually 4.5, but the bad ground conditions gave it a 6 effect. That wasn't pleasant. I was drinking a beer when the table started shaking. Lasted 45s, a long time for a quake. A school 30km away fell down and killed a few kids. I usually don't count 4s, but that one qualified.

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"LOS LLANOS DE ARIDANE, CANARY ISLANDS -- A volcano on the Spanish island of La Palma that has been erupting for six weeks spewed greater quantities of ash from its main mouth Sunday, a day after producing its strongest earthquake to date.

Lava flows descending toward the Atlantic Ocean from a volcanic ridge have covered 2,400 acres of land since the eruption began on Sept. 19, data from the European Union's satellite monitoring service, showed. On the way down the slope, the molten rock has destroyed more than 2,000 buildings and forced the evacuation of over 7,000 people.

But authorities in the Canary Islands, of which La Palma is part, have reported no injuries caused by contact with lava or from inhaling the toxic gases that often accompany the volcanic activity."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/with-no-sign-of-erupt...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

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(OP)
5000m plume height
2700+ structures destroyed
1450t/d SO2 (very high - needs verification)
Increase in lava flows
5.1 quake on Friday, since dropped to 3.5
Very high ash output
Some now buried twice

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

more ash = more volatiles. Different pod of magma being tapped?

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Some of the discussion above about earthquakes and finding that none of the recent Canary Islands earthquakes show up in the USGS earthquake map. Perhaps it is something to do with the mechanism that generates the earthquake energy being different from the ones that are related to sliding crustal blocks.

That led me to run a search for "volcano slug flow" which pulls up a bunch of papers along a similar line. One of the referenced web pages contains the "Taylor bubble (gas slug) flow in a volcanic context". Taylor bubble is one way of calculating parameters related to SO2 emissions, and some other parameters, which experts might know or be able to figure out.

One of the web pages that turns up provides a lengthy explanation of how all of this works at Fagradalsfjall
The changing faces of Fagradalsfjall: fizz, bubbles and slugs.

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(OP)
Spanish IGN records here,
https://www.ign.es/web/ign/portal/ultimos-terremot...
They are posting 5.x at 31 10 17:52 and 30 10 07:32.

Yes, I've found several papers on magma flow. It seems many types of flow regimes are experienced in vents, including annular flow.

Thanks for the links.

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I sorta felt the 5.0 2010 central canada quake 300 miles away in buffalo. Mostly watched my monitor wiggle for 10 or 15 seconds.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

There's a lot of them recorded on the "Lastquake" app. (Android/Google store)

Cheers


Politicians like to panic, they need activity. It is their substitute for achievement.

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(OP)
1 11 2021 18:50 UTC


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(OP)
Puerto Naos may get cut off soon.
Air quality extremely bad.
Heavy ash rain continues.
Airport closed.
5.1 quake this morning.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

The last two days the beast seems much different. No geysers seen. Same exact jet sound so maybe the jets are still going but we can't see them? It does look like tons of lava are still flowing everywhere down the slopes.

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

(OP)
It was jetting a large torch for almost the entire weekend, so maybe getting recharged. There has been no lack of ash plume.

This morning 22,000 t/day (250kg/s) SO2 was reported. Don't know what's up with those numbers.
Somebody may be reporting using "." separators instead of ".", or the news has gotten the numbers wrong as usual ???

Estimating from a volcano mass expulsion relationship, Plume Ht Km = 0.365 * M^0.255
M = kg/s
Using 5km plume height reported Saturday.
M = 110,000 kg/s , 110 metric tonnes /s
0.365 varies with a number of factors, not explained, but in any case a rather large number.

One thing for certain is that ash removal from rooftops and critical roads is a major, major problem now. Its a continuous blizzard with 5 surrounding townships confined to home. Another Pompeii in the Making.
That will worsen, if threatened rain happens on Thursday/Fri. The SG of the dry ash is 1.00

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Oh wow..that'll be Lahars everywhere.

That tombstone view above is pretty shocking for ash-fall.

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

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(OP)
The space observers tracking atmospheric particles related to aviation weather mention that SO2 emissions have been around 50kt/d.
https://www.aeronomie.be/en/news/2021/tracking-cum...

Any way, ash fall is totally out of control. Looks like black snow in Buffalo, NY.


Lots of tourists (10k were there for the All Saint's 3 day weekend) are stuck on the island with the flights cancelled. Returns on the ferries are all booked too.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Does anyone have an idea of how long it will take for the ash to become a suitable medium for growing 'stuff'?

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Depends on it's composition, but it would likely be suitable almost immediately assuming ground temperatures are not insane.

Precision guess work based on information provided by those of questionable knowledge

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Thanks... a lot faster than I would have thought.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

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(OP)
It's far better as an ash tray medium.

It's full of minerals, but 0 organics and other binders. It's basically worse than Arabian desert sand, where all that it needs is just water. Soil has been mixed into ash and lava flows, or rather placed on top in 18" min layers, in some places on Lanzarote from its 6yr flow and its worked there at least to some extent for bananas, small crops and grape vines Otherwise on its own it takes a few hundred years.

Lava flooded land, called "malpias", or badlands here, is supposed to revert to the state as protected parkland, not for construction, but due to the general shortage of land here, there is some talk of changing that law. But there always is such talk that never seems to matter in the end. In any case, a lot of work will have to be invested into such an effort. Its worse than badlands. It is very "chunky", not smooth like in Hawaii. Extremely rough and sharp surfaced. Falling on it usually requires a trip to the doctor, or at least the pharmacy to buy bandages. Some razor edges in there. A Mars rover couldn't make it's way over most of it. There are still flows here from 1906 that have been left to nature to recover. You really can't even walk on the stuff. I think a hotel or two have been built on top of a few that spilled into the ocean hundreds of years ago.

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Aeration and such will be a slight issue, but it'll still be viable. I've had capsicums plants grow strictly in pumice as if it were a form of hydroponic media.

Precision guess work based on information provided by those of questionable knowledge

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(OP)
Yeah, for hydroponics it could be good. Here the crop land issue would be binding in the water. Malpias is basically rock only and the ash is a black glassy, irregular grained sand. It will hold water, at least for a short time. The vineyards on Lanzarote have one vine planted in a depression, a layer of soil mixed with ash and ringed by stones salvaged from the depression. There is a condensing action with the humid air and cooler temperatures at night that gets them some water. Irrigation supplies the rest. Except for the north sides of the mountains, most areas are short of water and black sand gets pretty hot during the summer. The south facing slopes are desert island territory. The tourists like it, but not the best for growing things except the usual succulents and cacti. The north sides are best for vineyards and bananas and some fruit and nut trees and potato's at the higher elevations. The higher elevations are harder to irrigate and can get quite hot in the summer. It can be hit and miss. My neighbour has 700 ha at 2000ft and most of his vineyards burned this year in the sun and 40+ temps. Fortunately the potatoes survived, mostly on condensed water..

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(OP)
News today is reporting
SO2 at 29,400 mt/d 1,225 mt/h
CO2 is 1,850 mt/d

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

First recorded death... from the Weather Channel.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

(OP)
Yes, unfortunately a fatality has occurred within the exclusion zone. A 70yr old man was reported as a victim whom may have fallen from a roof that he was cleaning of ash. If true, I have a hard time actually blaming that directly on the volcano. More likely inadequate safety procedure and lack of safety line. In that regard, I'm surprised that there haven't been more accidents. I have yet to see anybody using safety lines. 3/12 roof pitches covered with fine grained ash are certainly very hazardous.

Of late there is some talk of reduction in released energy, but I think it is somewhat premature, as there are still periods of extreme activity. Although appearing to be lessening in frequency, it may simply be what people want to hear. In reality, the risk level has not measurably decreased; the monster has not gone anywhere and is still spitting out immense quantities of lave and ash. Although the lava flow has recently held to existing channels, I feel that if it decreased flow even a little, those existing channels would freeze and block, causing overflows and new channels to form on a subsequent increase. Some areas of solified previous lava flows subject to multiple overflows have now reached an impressive 40m in height. Such heights are usually not seen in other volcanos around the world.

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(OP)
I know that one too. I stayed at a friend's dairy farm in Juntas for a few months, 25km south of Ruiz in 1986, only a year after the mud flow that killed 25,000 in Armero. Many were still digging out. I voluntered to help with construction of a new school, as at the time I still remembered a little bit about structural engineering.

It is very impressive country, as Ruiz reaches to FL180 (17,800ft) and there are seven other volcanos in the area. It is in a very remote cloud forest. The ride to Juntas from Ibague is a few hours by "chivo", Billy goat, actually a very brightly painted school bus, up a rough mountain road on one side of a very steep gorge. The "road" is little more than a collection of 8 to 12" borders placed roughly in a curvey line ... which destroyed my back for days. I dont think I would attempt it again. If that's not enough, there are a number of hand pulled cable cars crossing the gorge to small farms on the other side... with very rusty cables as they get wet twice a day as the clouds move up then back down the valley. Fortunately I didn't have to take a cable car to reach the farm. Ruiz was only visible three times during the 3 mo I was there. That's where I noticed something about Colombia that I still remember. The poorer you are, the more flowers you have on your front porch. My friend had a water turbine generator to supply light and hot water. The only farm that had such a system in an otherwise electrically poor region with one tiny power company wire to supply all customers, which failed constantly and would be out for days at a time. When we didn't have enough water to run the generator, it was a very cold bath in the icy mountain water pool. All in all, a very cold, wet, rugged, but very beautiful area. I imagine it is still much the same today.

It sounds like it might be starting to act up again.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

The lava flow appears to be much more active.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Is it still 4 vents open or have any new ones opened up?

Precision guess work based on information provided by those of questionable knowledge

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(OP)
latest map shows the lava hasn't covered very much additional territory. Its been sticking to the existing channels, except for some flows in the southern area and some previous surrounded points being filled in.

This one is from the 3rd of Nov, so you can see the lava coverage has not changed that much. Most of the lava is flowing into the ocean.


Last week the experts were beginning to talk about some light at the end of the tunnel, however a number of strong quakes down to 38km depth, some reaching Maag 5.1 again, with following increase in lava flows and blasted materials has ended that speculation.

And due to the continued high volume of pyroclastic materials the volcano is emmitting, its "volcano strength" level classification was upgraded from Level 2, to 3 on a scale of 8.

Actually there are 8 vents shown on the map, however some are blasting stronger, or flowing more lava, or making more smoke than others and they do vary some from time to time.

Heavy ash plume continues and the airport has been shut down again for the past few days. It will probably be for a few more days as they await a weather front to move in and change the winds to the SW again.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

looks like one of the Med volcanoes is about to erupt as well.

Volcano north of Sicily.

Hope it goes soon in the winter season then there is no nonsense next summer.

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The volcano seems to be on an isle called Vulcano. smile



“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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Beautiful, but tragic shots.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Yes and it's really surreal, like from a space film or something.
Or some one taken a photo after a heavy snowfall and forgot to take of there brown lins.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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(OP)
Yeah. I could swear it's in Ray Bradsbury's "Martian Chronicals".

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(OP)
A strange "sombrero" cloud appeared on Tiede (Isla de Tenerife) yesterday morning. A silhouette photo from the sun rising to the east appears to give an x-ray view of the cloud, especially dense near the peak. It snowed some up there on Tuesday morning.

Photo by Rafa Muñoz



Cumbre Vieja is still blowing and going. Record numbers of quakes (400 in 24h) are keeping it well supplied with lava. All thoughts of an early extinction have vanished. A lava stream has erupted below the ash covered house ( Time 100 photo above) and has escaped the main channel, to work its way down the north side of the existing flows, taking out more houses as it nears La Laguna. I'll publish the map later today.

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Thanks, much appreciated.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

15033-44, that's a really cool picture.thumbsup

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(OP)
It is unusual for sure. A neighbour, Rafa Muñoz, took the shot when on his way to work.
I'll tell him you all liked it. (I should have credited the picture)

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Yes it was smile

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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Quote (RedSnake)

Island called Vulcano
That is why we call them volcanos, cuz that was the one first written about, in Latin, on an island called Vulcan or Vulcano in Italian.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Thanks for the background...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

And I guess that the island got it's name from Vulcanus who was the god of fire and forging in Roman mythology, the son of Jupiter and Juno and married to the goddess Venus.
If not it's a pretty good guess though. winky smile

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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Two days without significant quakes and very low SO2 emissions may indicate its finally brain dead. The vulcanologists will wait 8 more days before declaring its over.

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Maybe a nice Christmas eve present then. smile

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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(OP)
We do indeed wish it to be true, but personally i don't think the volcano is listening to what they say. They said it looked like it could be finished last week, just before it rocked out a few good 5.0 quakes, recessitated itself and promptly took out another 150 buildings on what today looks like it might have been its last gasp. So as they say, I'll wait for the fat lady to sing before I call it.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

How many building total now? Last number I heard about 3 weeks ago. 950? or 1,950?

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

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(OP)
+/- 3000

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Good grief the last month has be costly!

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

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Chaos and destruction - its work is done.

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

So any pics of the dogs?
I thought the Canaries were named after the dogs after all.


Politicians like to panic, they need activity. It is their substitute for achievement.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

There were some dog pics the day after their save, then a movie of them running around a house a day or so later. Check Yousloob.

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

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(OP)
Flag of the Canarias. Seven islands named after dogs. Not canaries.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Is 'Canarias' Spanish for some form of 'Dog'? The name Canaries is prettier than Dogs.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

It is said it's Latin for The dog isles.
What the Europeans called them since there was large dogs there.
But it's a bit hmm I don't know..
Latin for dog is "canis" but Latin for "to be sung" is "canari" so not sure what's the hen and wat's the egg here. ponder

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

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La Graciosa has recently been granted "island status". Its guite small and formally was just considered part of Lanzarote, but technically there is water between them. There is another one, Punta Delgada, just a little farther out, almost as large, and Montana Clara in between, but those are still considered just a rock. The old Simon & Garfunkle song does not tell us and I'm not sure myself when a rock becomes an island, or an island becomes a rock, which BTW gives me an excellent excuse to visit each one to see if I can refine that definition. Graciosa is inhabited by humans. The others not. However the yellow in the flag supposedly represents a species of canary birds that are also native to these islands. Actually they are greenish yellow. Anyway, that's a good thing, having all.

We don't really need to know which came first. puppy egg ducky And I guess we will have to wait for the song remix, a new official flag, another volcano that connects the two, or my trip report, to find out the rest. Until then, you can call us 7 or 8. No harm done.


RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Thanks, Red...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Quote (when a rock becomes an island)


It's easy; Islands never cry...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

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There you go. All I had to do was FF>>

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Probably need to the IAU involved; they were the ones that came up with a definition of "dwarf planet" that included Pluto, so they could likewise define a "dwarf island"

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RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

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Covered. See "Gulliver's Travels".

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.



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RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

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Thanks

Retweet to all.

A criminal investigation into the abandonment of the dogs has been opened.
The present whereabouts of the dogs is unknown.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

So is the volcano completely shut down?

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RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

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Five small earthquakes last night, all gone unnoticed except by the seismographs.

An offer of a reward for proof of life has not been answered. I mean about the dogs, not the volcano.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

It's been officially over. Until the next time.
BBC news.


Politicians like to panic, they need activity. It is their substitute for achievement.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

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1124m elevation and 6 craters

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

And the Volcanic activity has now popped out in Tonga, complete with tsunamis and an ash cloud blocking out the sun in parts of Tonga,hopefully this won't warrant its own tread.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pacific/300496...

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

Interesting Pressure lot of the effect of the eruption, Cape Reinga is 1900 km from the eruption & wellington is ~2500 km, the other locations falling in-between
https://twitter.com/MetService/status/148224777789....

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

This Week in Volcanoes; Tsunami Occurs at Hunga Tonga Volcano, Intermittent Activity at Kilauea Jan 16, 2022

Tsunami can be observed across the Pacific.

Quote (This Week in Volcanoes)

Reported to be associated with a eruption related landslide, 0.5 km3
Pago Pago, American Samoa, Arrival time Jan 16 2022 5:30 GMT

NOAA Tide Gauge Santa Barbara, CAArrival time Jan 16 2022 16:00 GMT

Alitak, AK Arrival time Jan 16 2022 16:18 GMT

Added after itsmoked's comment below.
Monterey, CA is the closest NOAA tide gage to Sana Cruse,


As displayed here - data points at 6 minute intervals, there is evidence of the Tsunami, but not the full impact of it's height.

RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

The tsunami thrashed our upper harbor here in Santa Cruz, CA.

It floated all the cars in the parking lot and raised all the docks to within an inch or so of floating free off their pilings.

I'm really annoyed because I went to the absolutely CRAP Tsunami warning center and couldn't figure out if we had a warning or not. That's how screwed up it is.

Fascinating the shockwave! Check out this Scott Manley vid showing it go around the world. People heard it in Alaska.
Shockwave Vid

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RE: Cumbre Vieja Volcano Part II & A-Team rescues trapped dogs from lava.

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A lot of wave (all of it) can pass the gage in 6 min without registering anything. It could have been much higher.

Looks like Alaska didn't see anything.

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