Miami Beach building collapse
Miami Beach building collapse
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Not a good year for engineering in Miami:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/us/miami-beach-buil...
From the CNN article:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/us/miami-beach-buil...
From the CNN article:
Quote (CNN)
The building that collapsed at 5775 Collins Ave. was the 12-story Marlborough House, which was scheduled for demolition to make way for a new condo building, according to The Next Miami, a news site focusing on real estate.
Police said there was a demolition permit on file for the site, but not an implosion permit. Demolition refers to the general process of tearing down a building, while implosion is specific to the use of explosives to quickly bring down a structure.
RE: Miami Beach building collapse
I wonder if someone earlier in the process asked "Is this structural?" and got the answer "Naw, just cut it."
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/m...
Clearly wasn’t planned as there were people standing within yards of the building when it came down, one of whom was seriously injured.
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RE: Miami Beach building collapse
His buddy nopes out of there real quick while the other dude sits there for a second.
Very sad, but RUNNNN damnit.
RE: Miami Beach building collapse
The injured man certainly didn't look like he expected the building to collapse, standing so close to it - even after the structure began to come down.
He appears to raise his arm in some kind of gesture before beginning to run away.
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RE: Miami Beach building collapse
Is there anything about collapsing an entire building in that tight of a space that is remotely "conventional?"
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Brad
It's all okay as long as it's okay.
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Dik
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I suppose in essence this wasn't an implosion as there were no apparent explosives involved, but that D9 pulling a central support down.
I think the main building structure collapsed pretty well as intended, but what looks like the central stairwell or lift shaft was a bit more solid and suddenly stands proud of the rest and tips part of the building into the road.
Standing that close does seem nigh on suicidal though.
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RE: Miami Beach building collapse
It also appears they were expecting to eventually drop the building like that based on how the bottom floor had been demolished down to the pillars while the other floors were more complete.
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It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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RE: Miami Beach building collapse
They probably wouldn't have done this job due to the tight surroundings.
But, if more open, weaken it at the bottom and pull at the top.
There was a lot of judgment involved, but NO actual engineering.
So not surprising that something could be done like this, or that it could go wrong.
RE: Miami Beach building collapse
but the phrase
"easier to ask forgiveness than get permission"....Oops
came to me
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It's pretty remarkable that there was only one significant injury - hope the foreman recovers.
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Not sure when these were mandated for construction equipment but agricultural equipment has had them for 40 years.
They will take much more than flying debris, but I agree that a tall building may shorten them somewhat.
ps. I have been unable to open any of the videos, but in the pictures that looks like a Tractor-Loader-Backhoe, not a dozer. Confirmation?
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RE: Miami Beach building collapse
But seeing basketball sized pieces of concrete flying across the road sure does give a view of how many people could have been hurt.
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RE: Miami Beach building collapse
Where did the dozer or loader end up after the collapse?
In one video a red first responder vehicle pulled up on the street within seconds of the collapse. It looked like a rescue or first response truck, similar to an ambulance. Coincidence?
RE: Miami Beach building collapse
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/m...