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VNA RFID design problem

VNA RFID design problem

VNA RFID design problem

(OP)
Hello everyone,

I recently start developing an RFID circuit MFRC522 IC, following the NXP application note AN 1445,
When i try to get the series equivalent of the antenna coil using the VNA, i get a very noisy reading when i try to read the real part of the impedance S11,
it varies from 6 to 10 Ω, see attchment
and when i try to measure the imaginary part, the reading is very stable

Can someone please explain this, (Note this is my first time to use VNA)
Thanks in advance,
ATarek

RE: VNA RFID design problem

For ease of reference:

RE: VNA RFID design problem

Is this the "VNA" that you're referring to?

http://www.dxatlas.com/hamvna/

So this is real (measured) data (not modelled) ?

RE: VNA RFID design problem

(OP)
Yes this is real measured from Rohde & Shwartz device

RE: VNA RFID design problem

AN1445 Section 4.1.1 states that the typical values for the loop 'antenna' are:
La = 0.3 - 3µH
Ca = 3 - 30 pF
Ra = 0.3 - 8Ω

It can be a bit tricky to measure low values, unless the equipment is specifically intended for that range. Reliable measurements often demand an order of magnitude more resolution and accuracy than the reading (i.e. an extra digit).

Also, being a coil, it can be more susceptible to picking up ambient noise. So beware of that.

We've used the R&S FSH-3 (for example), and I wouldn't particularly trust that relatively inexpensive model to provide overly-precise measurements at low values. I've seen some evidence of quantitization errors on some readings.

Depending on the nature of the project, sometimes it can be worthwhile to skip over an overly-fussy measurement step, and leave the testing to the 'next higher assembly'. In this case, the final antenna assembly including the matching circuit. That decision depends on the nature of the project.

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