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Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

(OP)
Apologies as this may be a stupid question :

I want to use a thermocouple to measure the temperature of a piece of busbar. My concern is the busbar will be charged with 120 V. Attaching a K type thermocouple directly to the busbar would cause problems for the temperature reading, no?

Thank you for your time.

RE: Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

That depends on the instrument that the TC is connected to.

Take a look st this thread. There are some similar issues.
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=419502

Pay particular attention to this advice from Skogsgurra in regards to bare TCs:
DO NOT BOND TCs TO ANYTHING THAT CARRIES CURRENT

Bill
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Jimmy Carter

RE: Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

Bear in mind that most arc-flash tests are initiated with an ignition wire not much thicker than thermocouple wire. You might want to have a look at You-Tube to see just how badly things can go wrong, then decide if this is a good idea.

Can you use a non-contact laser thermometer instead?

RE: Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

Just use a NON-CONTACT tempgun or a thermal-imager.


Oh and Scotty, didn't he say "120V"?

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

RE: Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

Well at least we agree about non-contact measurement! smile

I can honestly say that the week I spent at the IPH test facility in Berlin was an eye-opener about arc flash. I'm not sure that an arc is sustainable with 120V at typical busbar separation distances but why take the chance if the risk is avoidable through choosing a better measurement technique?

RE: Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

fiber optic temperature measurement
[img http://w3.siemens.com/mcms/sensor-systems/en/proce...]
It appears that the probe end that connects to the electronic box has a SS transition and some sort of electrical connector, but the probe looks like fiber optic glass.

1Hz update rates.

And you'd have to deal with Profibus DP.

No clue what the pricing is.

RE: Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

This sounds like an ideal job for a pyrometer... non-contact, relatively inexpensive, etc.

Dan - Owner
http://www.Hi-TecDesigns.com

RE: Thermocouple Measuring Busbar Temperature

There are contactless thermocouples that work really well.

Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com

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