Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!
  • Students Click Here

*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here


Swift's typical strip example explanation.

Swift's typical strip example explanation.

Swift's typical strip example explanation.

Hello all,
I am struggling with Swift's paper and how he calculated the loads per rivet in the multi row plate example, I have a similar patch I am trying to analyze and could use some help..

So he has us calculate bar displacement and then rivet displacement. I understand that, but how then does he come up with the number of 187 for the load on the first row of rivets?

Thank you

RE: Swift's typical strip example explanation.

could you attach the specific calc (Swift wrote extensively on this).

at a hunch I'd suggest that he has a load (hoop stress *1p*t) acting on the strip and maybe a simple proportion shears on the first row (50%), but more likely he'd've done a compliance model to carefully calculate the load transferred on the first row.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

RE: Swift's typical strip example explanation.


The fastener load value of 187 lbf comes from the matrix solution to a set of simultaneous equations representing the fastener and plate element set up.

I am assuming you are referring to Swift's paper "Repairs to Damage Tolerant Aircraft" where he gets an example load of 187.2 lbf.

In an idealized strip, as you pointed out, some of the displacements have to be equal. For example if you look at Figure 3 of that paper, the displacement of skin element 4 must be equal to the displacement of fastener 4. We also know that the loads in the final element of a skin or doubler must be equal to the end fastener load (for the simple idealized Swift example). We also can say that a bypass load in an interior element must be the same as the load in a preceding element of the same part, less the intervening fastener load.

These things help us set up a system of constraining equations. The displacement compatibility is based on the compliance or stiffness of each element. Swift came up with his own equation for fastener stiffness. The resulting system of linear algebraic equations for a three row single shear joint looks like this (keep in mind this is a simple joint case):

You would have to expand this for additional parts and fasteners, but you get the idea.

Subscripts - "S" is for skin layer element, "F" is for fastener, and "R" is for repair layer element. These equations just come from the displacement equations. Try it yourself by calling the displacements delta = P*c where c = L/(A*E) for a plate. For a spring (fastener element), c comes from the swift equation. Then isolate P in each of your displacement compatibility equations and you should end up with a system like above.

To solve for Pf1, Pf2, and Pf3, you need to solve the system which is easiest with linear algebra. You will need to take some determinants.

Keep em' Flying
//Fight Corrosion!

RE: Swift's typical strip example explanation.

this is the compliance model I mentioned. Niu has something similar.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!


Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close