## What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

## What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

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Hello dear colleagues

I am new to Mathcad, I wonder what is the difference between Mathcad prime and Mathcad, I knew about the Express version which is free.

Any further guidance or recommended resources to help me master the program will be welcome.

Thank you.

I am new to Mathcad, I wonder what is the difference between Mathcad prime and Mathcad, I knew about the Express version which is free.

Any further guidance or recommended resources to help me master the program will be welcome.

Thank you.

## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

That's the main difference. There are some architectural differences behind the scenes which allowed PTC to improve several things like symbolic math, user queues (help tips), error checking, solve blocks, and similar.

Because of the (nearly) complete re-write to MathCAD, not all of the functionality from Legacy has been fully implemented in Prime yet.

--Scott

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## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

I actually started learning MathCAD Prime by my self from its help section.. It's really great for new users.

Am i on the right track or it would be better if i go on using MathCAD (not Prime) ?

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## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

BTW, the main reason I upgraded is that MC8 was not very happy running under 64-bit Windows 7, even in compatibility mode. It was slightly slower than it had been under 32-bit Windows Vista (on a slower computer, no less) and had a tendency to freeze or even crash the computer during a long session. The tipping point was a project I did in 2013 for which I created about 100 pages worth of Mathcad calcs in documents ranging from 4 to 10 pages. After dealing with several freeze or crash episodes per day for about two weeks, I resolved to upgrade to Mathcad Prime as soon as Prime 3.0 was released (which was about 3 months after I finished the project calcs). I had demo'ed Prime 2.0 earlier that year, but it didn't seem finished, hence the wait. Prime 3.0 is the the first version I consider to the truly useful, even though the MC15 fans still snub their noses at Prime.

Prime has not yet caught up to the depth and breadth of Mathcad 15.0, and probably won't until at least Prime 5.0, but for me it doesn't matter. Prime 3.0 does more than my old Mathcad 8.0 Standard, which was sufficient for most of the calculations I need do as a civil engineer. The best tool I gained in making the jump is programming, which Mathcad 8.0 Standard did not do. Prime also has a generally better interface (although I sure wish I could park tool palettes on my screen to save repeated clicks on the ribbon) and produces slightly better looking documents.

The best book (maybe the only book) on Mathcad Prime 3.0 is Brent Maxfield's "Essential PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0" http://www.amazon.com/Essential-PTC%C2%AE-Mathcad-... (I wrote one of the reviews). Also, I have posted a bunch of Prime 3.0 worksheets on the PTC Mathcad website and at least three are of interest to mechanical engineers. Start here (http://communities.ptc.com/community/mathcad?view=...) to see the various categories of documents. Most of my documents are under Civil Engineering, but there are three that I also posted under Mechanical Engineering (Lusk_Darcy Friction Factors_v2.zip, Lusk_Natural Gas Distribution Systems & Service Connections (rev3).zip, and Lusk_Feet Inches & Fractions Calculations.zip). The fastest way to see all of my documents is to jump to my page at http://communities.ptc.com/people/FredLusk?view=do....

Good luck with learning and using Mathcad.

Fred Lusk

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## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

Depending on which specific version of Mathcad you have, the symbolic engine may be different. The original engine was Maple, but the new engine since v12(?) and all versions of Prime is MuPad.

The free version of Prime is quite limited, but can still be useful as a units-aware calculator. But, that would be a large footprint and a slow load, compared to any older version of Mathcad, or even Studyworks.

This http://www.mathcad.pl/prime/6017_Mathcad_Compariso... is an older comparison of Mathcad 15 and Prime 1.0, so some of the listed deficiencies in Prime are no longer extant.

I'm not particularly fond of the Prime equation editor, which is claimed to be better. Certain editing features now require more keystrokes than before, which is rarely a good thing. Other features, like automatically inserting a complete parentheses, is better than Mathcad 15. Several of what used to be separate extension packs, like Signal Processing, are directly incorporated into Prime, so that's a lot easier to deal with.

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## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

The frst thing I did after successfully installing MathCAD 15 M030 and Prime 3.0 was to

symbolically evaluate a large equation that I had trouble processing in MathCAD 14.

Prime 3.0 failed to process the equation and MathCAD 15 successfully processed the equation.

I have experienced limitations with MathCAD 15. When symbolically processing a larger function

and watching memory usage via Windows-Task-Manager-Processes, if the memory usage rises

slightly above 1.4 GB, the following Error message is displayed.

"Warning: An internal error has occurred. Please save your work and exit."

OS: Win-7-Ultmt 6.1 SP1, .NET-FW 4.51, MSXML 4.0 SP3, 12GB-RAM

I have to say that the Microsoft ribbon concept is less user friendly and that MathCAD

Prime 3.0 seems to run slower than MathCAD 15 on the same 64-bit PC.

## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

"I have been a MathCAD user since MathCAD 3.0.

The frst thing I did after successfully installing MathCAD 15 M030 and Prime 3.0 was to

symbolically evaluate a large equation that I had trouble processing in MathCAD 14.

Prime 3.0 failed to process the equation and MathCAD 15 successfully processed the equation."

I can now add to this that,

Prime 3.1 failed to process the equation.

## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

I doubt I will ever switch to Mathcad Prime unless the symbolic processor can match Mathematica's and that will be tough.

I don't like the way Mathematica does simulations and graphs which is why I keep my Mathcad 13 around.

Peter Nachtwey

Delta Computer Systems

http://www.deltamotion.com

## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

I have never used Mathematica. Is it difficult to come up to speed and enter equations for symbolic processing in Mathematica?

## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

But, there are still other reasons for using MC, particularly if you're doing things with multiple units and units systems like Si and US.

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## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

Here is an example

http://www.deltamotion.com/peter/Maxima/AutoTuneEq...

http://www.deltamotion.com/peter/Maxima/MotionPlan...

http://www.deltamotion.com/peter/Maxima/Seg1234567...

If you do a lot of symbolic processing like I do I highly recommend wxMaxima.

Mathcad is good at unit conversions but it has one great flaw.

It can't treat formulas as data that can be manipulated.

wxMaxima and Mathematica can. This opens up a whole new world of possibilities.

Another problem I have with Mathcad is that Mathcad will find a solution but not optimize it.

Mathematica will find a solution and then try to simplify the solution.

This works well but it requires lots of memory. My old Mathcad 13 didn't have a chance in 3 GB of memory on Win XP.

Mathematica has a player where people that don't have Mathematica can view Mathematica output.

https://www.wolfram.com/cdf-player/

This is a great tool if you want to share simulations.

Mathematica is one of those tools you will never truly master.

Mathematica and wxMaxima work under multiple operating systems.

I have only one license for Mathematica and one for Mathcad 13.

I have my Mathcad 13 running on a virtual machine since it doesn't work on operating systems past Windows XP.

I run wxMaxima on all my computers. wxMaxima is really just a wrapper for Lisp.

I have Windows 8, OS X and Debian Linux computers.

I think Mathematica will work on all these operating systems.

Peter Nachtwey

Delta Computer Systems

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## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

Here's symbolic maths

http://docs.sympy.org/latest/modules/solvers/solve...

and here's a course that uses ipython notebooks, which are a combination of python and a simple documentation language, allowing you to provide self documenting worksheets

http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/numerical-mooc/...

There is one enormous trap with python 1/42=0, which is logical, but terribly inconvenient to careless real world people like me.

Cheers

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Peter Nachtwey

Delta Computer Systems

http://www.deltamotion.com

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## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

I was very dissapointed to learn that Mathcad Prime 3.1 does not read Mathcad Prime 3.0 files. This may have been PTC's biggest blunder to date.

One other difference between Mathcad and Mathcad Prime: Mathcad Prime is only divisible by itself and one.

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## RE: What is the main differences between Mathcad prime and Mathcad

"This may have been PTC's biggest blunder to date."

That may be the biggest understatement of the still new year. That, and the fact that MPn do not downsave to M15. PTC drew a line in the sand, and few are bothering to step over it.

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