dcs selection for power plant
dcs selection for power plant
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which dcs is better for coal fired sub critical thermal power plant do you think?
ABB 800XA ,siemens 3000T ,foxboro ,GE or another one which you can offer.
ABB 800XA ,siemens 3000T ,foxboro ,GE or another one which you can offer.
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If this is a green field project, I recommend short interviews with the companies that have service in your area. From this, shorten the list to 2-4 systems, then perform an analysis to see how each compares to a 'wish list' you develop.
If this plant is a part of a bigger company (not stand alone), then there may be some benefits of using the DCS the company is already using.
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Do you have any ABB 800 XA experience? I discuss with ABB engineers and ı didnt satisfied.Usually ABB experienced with Natural Gas power plant . But our project 350 MW cola fired...
ı agree with ScottyUK Siemens or Ge are good choise ,but if you have any experience with others DCS ı wish to hear.Sometimes catalog spesification may satisfied but practise is not.
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If you use a GE turbine then go with a GE DCS because you will never get GE to use anything but their own control system for the turbine and there are strong reasons to keep a single automation platform throughout the plant. Siemens Westinghouse might well offer an Ovation system because of the historical relationship from Westinghouse days while Siemens in Germany will offer a Siemens system. MHI will likely offer Ovation, I think Toshiba have their own system, and I don't know what Alstom are currently favouring. Hopefully their accursed MicroREC is consigned to history.
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Can't help with that. I've been out of the power industry for 20 years.
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http://www2.emersonprocess.com/en-US/brands/ovation/Pages/index.aspx
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I especially like Ovation's turbine specific hardware which means we don't have to shop ala carte for speed cards, LVDT drivers, redundant servo cards etc; Ovation integrates them all.
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A DCS, and any control system, is worth about as much as the local support.
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You say that "ABB's 800xA is a derivative of the Bailey Network 90"
I beg to differ. It is much more related to ABB's Sattline product from Sweden. Sattline is an object oriented DCS unlike Network 90, and so is 800xA.
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"The Harmony/INFI 90 traces its roots back to Bailey Control's 1980 introduction of its Network 90 System. In 1988, the Network 90 evolved into the INFI 90 system, then to INFI 90 OPEN system in 1992, and then to Harmony/INFI 90 System in 1996...
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...In 2003, the Harmony/INFI 90 System began its next advancement in the evolution process with the introduction of Industrial IT System 800xA..."
http://www.abb.com/product/us/9AAC115763.aspx
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