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# Determine the size of the pipe

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## Determine the size of the pipe

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How to calculate the size of the pipe to discharge water from a 10m3 tank in an hour?

What are the parameters and what is the calculation?

Assuming that the tank is placed on the floor, what is the formula based on which the size of the pipe is determined?

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### RE: Determine the size of the pipe

there is a lot diference between a tank  size 10 meter high and 1 m surface, and other 1 meter high and 10 meter surface, please remember that allways you need to state both: flow and pressure or head pressure.

Pardal

### RE: Determine the size of the pipe

your tank drainage calculation will be the result of a
period of time from second 1 to 1 hour.

the differential pressures
when the tank is full
and the pressure when the tank is emptied
are the main concern here also the orifice diameter and any vortex obstruction created durring draining the tank are at issue.
the pipe lenght and pipe diameter and pipe material and pipe fittings and the number of vectors that are taken durring the draining process are also an issue.
the viscosity of the water and the temperature of the water.
and the density of the water.
there are numerous determining factors or elements to include when determining the correct pipe size to use in a systems design.
if you would please be more specific as to your system there are many highly qualified individuals who will be happy to assist you in this forum , this I have learned from experience.

### RE: Determine the size of the pipe

a simple solution is

Economic diameter for a rate of flow
of 10 m³/h:

Small viscosity (ca.10^-6 m²/s)
Optiaml pipe diameter about: 43 mm
Possible diameter: DN 40 ==> Velocity 2.21 m/s
Possible diameter: DN 50 ==> Velocity 1.41 m/s

High viscosity (100*10^-6 m²/s)
Optimal pipe diameter about: 63 mm
Possible diameter: DN 50 ==> Velocity 1.41 m/s
Possible diameter: DN 65 ==> Velocity 0.84 m/s

Pardal

### RE: Determine the size of the pipe

The flow rate will depend on level of water and will change with time. So you will have to adopt step by step method or area-integration method to compute discharge.

Suppose, you start draining the tank and at time 't' seconds after, the head in tank is 'Ht'.

Hd = Ht- f*l*v*v/2/g/d   ...........(A)
f=friction factor; l =length of pipe; v= vel in pipe; g= gravitation cont; d= dia of pipe;

Velocity haed in pipe =Hd = v*v/2/g  ........(B)

For any particular dia and time step dt at time t you will get v for any t and compute discharge
Dq = v*pi*d8d/4*dt

Perform computations for t=0 to 3600 secs and sum up discharge volumes (dq). The dia which gives you the volume of 10 m3 is the most eco dia.

Hope I it will make some sense.

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