Overload Relay Wiring
Overload Relay Wiring
(OP)
Is anyone aware of a code or standard that says a motor overload relay must be hard wired to the coil of the starter. The only thing I can find in the NEC referencing the wiring allows the overload device to be wired to a supervised alarm when an imediate shutdown of the motor would create a hazard to personel, etc. I have a customer who wants to wire the overload relays into a PLC which would provide the overload protection. I don't feel that the PLC should be used as the only protection but I have not been able to find a relevant code, etc.
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- All the MCC's I've seen come pre-wired with the OL's in the control ckt to drop out the contactor. This has worked well for years, is simple and reliable, so why go to the expense of runinng wires, reconfiguring the MCC bucket and incurring additional labor costs?
- I know PLC's have gotten more reliable over the years but I wouldn't want them performing protective functions. I still think alot of their strength is in the control area.
WBD
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Thanks for your comments, I feel the same way. I thought maybe it was a NEMA standard or maybe the NFPA would have something dealing with the wiring practices for overloads, but I can't seem to find it.
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Article 110-3 requires materials to be approved for the purpose used, I do not of any PLC Card or PLC application approved for motor running protection.You can use a NO Overload contact wired to a PLC input to detect OL trip.
As to wiring of Overload relay control elements.... a long long time ago only 2 overload elements were required and these were mounted on both sides of the motor contactor and the NC contacts were connected to each side of the contactor coil. These 2 elements gave running protection and single phasing protection for load side single phasing of supply transformer. To protect against single phasing on the supply side of the transformer the third element was required, starters of new designs were introduced using block style overload relays using only 1 NC contact.
Additionally the the NEC allows only control voltage of less than 150 votls to ground to leave the stater enclosure. Manufactures continued to wire one side of the contactor coil to the NC Overload Relay contact.This wire is generally very short and not subject to physical damage or ground and hence would not present a hazzard. There has been much ringing of hands on this subject, but the devices are UL Listed and hence approved for the purpose. Some manufactures of MCC will have an option as to which side of the contactor the NC contact is to wired. ( Starter = Contactor + OL Relay ) {Combination Starter = Starter + Motor Branch Circuit Protection }
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I have no knowledge of any standard which states a preferred option except where operator safety is concerned. In which case software must never be solely relied upon.
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I'm curious as to the scheme with overload elements on both sides of the contactor. I'm not sure what you mean about the transformer. Also couldn't find the NEC article prohibiting control voltages above 150 to ground from leaving the starter enclosure. I know there are alot of system grandfathered in with 480/277 volt control circuits. If you have more information on these items I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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In OL relays where you can get at each of the three OL elements I have seen one installed with a lower value and that one wired to annunciator.
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http://www.ab.com
and concentrate on overload relays, e.g. SMP-3 connection for starters NEMA size 5 up over CTs. It will provide the clue.