Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI
Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI
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Heater tube, A 335 P91(P-NO. 5B) to pipe support of A 560 50Cr-50Ni-Cb has been completed with non-hardened filler metal, ERNiCr-3, and proper preheating according to the applicable Code ASME B31.3
I would like to know for the following question:
First, My interpretation is correct that PWHT on the dissililar weld joint is not required according to ASME B31.3 para 331.1.3(b)(3).
Second, Please advise me of any information for the welding mentioned above as Hardnes in the HAZ area in the P91 side was checked 380HB.
Thanks in advance
Wooill Ihm
I would like to know for the following question:
First, My interpretation is correct that PWHT on the dissililar weld joint is not required according to ASME B31.3 para 331.1.3(b)(3).
Second, Please advise me of any information for the welding mentioned above as Hardnes in the HAZ area in the P91 side was checked 380HB.
Thanks in advance
Wooill Ihm
RE: Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI
For Any Grade 91 material, a post weld heat treatment should be performed in accordance with Code requirements to assure adequate ductility and creep rupture strength.
RE: Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI
Thank you for your comment.
as your comment,Welding condition of P91 to 50Cr-50Ni support with filler metal, ERNiCr-3, does not meet the requirement of para.331.1.3(b), but conforms to the para.331.1.3(c)
If PWHT is required accoring to the para.331.1.3(b)as you commented, it seemed to me that there be not necessarily to specify the para. 331.1.3(c)in this Stanard.
For PWHT for any weld joint in fully compliance with the requirement of the para.331.1(c)would not be exempted unless the requirements of the para.331.1.3(b)would be met.
Your further explanation would be helpful.
Wooill Ihm
RE: Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI
However I would not use this rule for welds to P91. Advice to do PWHT at 750 Deg. C
RE: Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI
The words used in this paragraph are ferritic and austenitic materials and components. PWHT is dictated by ferritic material. In most DMW applications, it is implied that an austenitic filler metal would be used to join a ferritic material to an austenitic stainless steel.
Regarding welding pressure parts to non-pressure parts, it has been stated to follow the requirements of the pressure boundary base metal regarding preheat and PWHT requirements. In this case, the T91 material requirements must be followed for welding.
RE: Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI
Please read as follows:
para.331.1.3(b) to 331.1.3(b)(2) and
331.1.3(c) to 331.1.3(b)(3)
CODE interpretation is different between two gentlemen.
Any other opinion who has.
Thanks
woo-ill ihm
RE: Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI
These paragraphs clearly specify the exceptions on PWHT.
RE: Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI
Note 5 relates to Appendix F which deals with Precautionary
Considerations.
So once again, my interpretation is that NO exemption can be applies to P5B base material.
RE: Welds of P91 to 50cr-50NI