The Origins of Imperial Measures and Time Measures
The Origins of Imperial Measures and Time Measures
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Why is it that we have 12" to a foot, and 60 secs to a minute, 24hrs to a day etc. Logic would dictate that we use decimal values i.e. 10" to a foot, 10 hours to a day, etc. since we have 10 fingers. Was man deliberately stupid?
Has anyone got an answer to this.
Has anyone got an answer to this.
Friar Tuck of Sherwood
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The internet is plagued with -sometimes contradicting- theories aimed to answer your question.
The origin of the Sumerian/Babylonian sexagesimal system of counting has not yet been truely explained. However, most historians concur in that the decimal system was in use at the same time. Some exegetists conclude that the use of the decimal system could not serve to analyse circle geometry as related to astronomical observations.
I cannot comment on man's stupidity but it is apparent we haven't progressed much, since modern societies continue in using both systems...
From answers provided by the Reader's Digest:
The 24-hour day. The Egyptian stargazers noted that the night was marked off by the consecutive rising of 12 bright stars. Bent on symmetry, they divided the day to match.
It was the Egyptian Pharaoh Amenophis who asked his chief engineer to build a water clock to enable measuring time at nights. Primitive sundials gave the approximate time during daylight. Greeks and Romans later on developed the clepsydras as water clocks that were able to measure fractions of hours.
12 inches to a foot. The foot, as its name suggests, was once the distance from the heel to tip of the big toe. Ancient Egyptians standardized it as two thirds of a short cubit. The cubit, the measure used by Noah to build his ark, was originally the length from elbow to middle fingertip, about 18 inches. Ancient Egyptians divided it into fingers and palms. Four finger widths or digits, made a palm, and six palms nade a cubit. Later, about 4,000 years ago, they added a seventh palm, naming it the royal cubit, which became standardized at approximately 21 inches.
Originally the inch represented the width of a man's thumb, but it was standardized in clasic Rome as one-twelfth of a foot. In 1305 Edward I of England defined the yard as made of three 12-inch feet and decreed that the inch should be equal to three grains of dry barley laid end to end. Shoemakers still use the barleycorn unit of measurement.
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What did interest me recently was to learn of the Chinese Bell measures.
A truly clever system of creating traceable standards and transmitting them. It appears the Chinese decided to use a bell with a particular note as a standard for volume measurement. Different notes, different volumes, and a string tuned to a certain note as a measure of length.
This has a certain prescience about it if we consider what is today the standard for length.
JMW
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Dr Michael F Platten
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JMW
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Illogical? Hardly. 60 and 360 are great numbers. 60 can be divided evenly by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, and 30. 360 can be divided evenly by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, 24, 30, 36, 40, 45, 60, 72, 90, 120, and 180. Really useful properties for a measuring system.
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It is reasonable to assume that since the days of the week are named after the five bright stars known by the Babylonians: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, plus the Sun and the Moon, gave rise to the seven-day week, with one of the planets "in charge" of each day.
Even up to these days imaginative suggestions are made as to the planets' influence on human beings as their position changes in respect to the stars and other planets, and foretelling of the future has evolved into astrology, its horoscopes believed by many (credulous) people.
It was the Egyptian priests who noticed that there were ±12 new Moons per year, so they had 12 months. They made each month 30 days long, disregarding the actual Moon phases. This made 360 days, to which they added 5 days at the end.
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I kind of assumed that the length standard was based on the tuning of a string to the same pitch as the bell. Am I right? In which case, how did they know how much tension to put on the string?
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Dr Michael F Platten
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I really like the proposal for the neolithic yard - based on the length of a pendulum with a certain period. I can't remember how they were supposed to time the pendulum though.
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http://www.japanese-incense.com/time.htm
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1676.htm
http://www.geocities.com/~thinkink/guide/bells.htm
JMW
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I was just fascinated as I read his trilogy.
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