wcs

[miked64]

what happened to the feature of setting WCS to a saved WCS. You used to be able to select (from pulldown menu) FORMAT, WCS, ORIENT, then pic SELECTED CYS, and pick a saved WCS and your WCS would go there, now it says the selected constraint is not valid or supported?

 

[markrief]

Set the reference to Selected CSYS and you should be fine.

Mark Rief
Product Manager
Siemens PLM

 

[cowski]

To get there I use the 'Inferred' type option and select the saved CSYS.

Another method is to use the 'offset' type CSYS:
Offset CSYS, reference Selected CSYS, select saved CSYS, and use offset values of zero.

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[miked64]

Mark,
That is what I am doing, always have, but now i get that message, "the selected constraint is not valid or supported" ?

 

[jerry1423]

what version of NX are you on?

 

[JohnRBaker]

It appears that...

Format -> WCS -> Orient -> Inferred

...works exactly as cowski has described using the latest releases of NX 6.0, NX 7.5 and NX 8.0 (as well as the yet to be finished NX 8.5) so I don't really see where the problem is.

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[miked64]

john, the problem is, it does not work the same as i am used to seeing, i used to do it the way i described at the start of the thread, yes the infered method does work, but 1 time only? if i want to move it again i have to exit UG? It used to work all day long using the method your co worker Mark described. Thats where the problem is.


I am on NX8.0.1.5

 

[cowski]

Are you in the modeling application or something else? (a few of your recent posts have been about CAM stuff, perhaps the CAM application responds differently?)
Also, are you moving the WCS while in another command (such as while repositioning a component)?

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[JohnRBaker]

I don't know what you're talking about as I can go from saved-WCS to saved-WCS setting them to be the current WCS with no problems whatsoever, either by hitting 'Apply' and staying in the WCS dialog, or hitting OK and re-launching the dialog each time.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[miked64]

thats whwere I am going with this John, I used to be asle to do that also but i get this alert message now and I cant apply or ok it?
see attached snapshot

 

[miked64]

Cowski, I used to move this in modeling or manufacturing, more modeling that manufacturing but they both worked the same. I can move my MCS ot a saved WCS easily, but it does not work moving the WCS back to a saved WCS? I mostly move the WCS to a position I want to output my code from, save the WCS there and move my MCS to the saved WCS and away I go.
It will however move to the infered option you mentiond, but only once, then the option of picking Reference to selected csys goes away untill i restart UG?

 

[cowski]

What you describe is not the standard/expected behavior. Do you get the same results when working on other files and/or a different workstations?

It may be time to get GTAC involved...

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[JohnRBaker]

That makes no sense whatsoever. Attached is a video clip (I'm running NX 8.0) showing me going from one saved-WCS to another using the 'Dynamic' mode while referencing a 'Selected CSYS'. I get no errors or warnings.

My next replay will include a video clip showing this same workflow using the 'Inferred' mode, again with no problems whatsoever.

BTW, you keep implying that this used to work the way you want it to. When exactly was that? What version of NX are you referring to when you say that?

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[JohnRBaker]

Here is the video using the 'Inferred' mode.

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[miked64]

I think your right Cowski, I might have to log a call. Mark and John both have comented also on how it should be behaving.
Yes it does the same on different files/workstations.
I am just curious if it is something in NX8, it worked fine for me in NX7 and prior.
John stated he tested in nx8 though.

Thanks

 

[jerry1423]

just a guess:
go into your customer defaults -> Manufacturing -> Geometry -> Coordinate System
and verify that your settings are the way you want them to be.

There could be issues with linking the MCS.

 

[cowski]

What's the exact version of NX 8 that you are running? (You can find out by going to Help -> about NX, the version number will be in the dialog box title bar). In other threads John has mentioned he is running pre-release code for the next MR, so you may see a problem he doesn't. Anyone running your exact version should be able to confirm/deny similar WCS behavior.

For what it's worth, I'm running NX 7.5.0.32.

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[JohnRBaker]

I should have prefaced my comment with the fact that I'm running NX 8.0.3.3, the 3rd of 4 development phases of what will be the NEXT NX 8.0 MR (Maintenance Release), which will be available later this summer. So it is possible that there's a problem with the version that you have which has subsequently been fixed, but if you call GTAC they should be able to verify that situation and perhaps even have an MP (Maintenance Patch) available, but only if one has already been created to address this issue (BTW, only people who submit relevant PR's are automatically notified if an MP is released which addresses a specific PR).

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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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[miked64]

As I previously stated I am running
NX8.0.1.5
I am not getting the same results as you are John, although doing the same thing. That is exactly how I have done this for years.
I tried to upload a vidieo but I am being blocked internaly here.
I will log an IR

Thanks Guys

 

[JohnRBaker]

You may get lucky. Since NX 8.0.2.2 is currently available, it's possible this was addressed with that release, which means that you could update today if you wished to.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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Siemens PLM:
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To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.