Vistax64 and nVidia Quadro FX570 settings

[CorBlimeyLimey]

If anyone is running Vista x64 with an nVidia Quadro FX570 grapics card, and you have a "SolidWorks" setting, would you mind posting a screen shot of the settings being used by the nVidia card.

It has a "Dassault Systeme CATIA - Compatible" setting, but not the expected "SolidWorks" or "Dassault Systeme Solidworks" setting.

 

[StefanHamminga]

From the official SolidWorks site driver:

<PROFILE Label="Dassault Systemes CATIA - compatible">
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits" Value="0x40020244" Default="0x40020244" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_application_key" Value="0x0000000A" Default="0x0000000A" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="Dassault Systemes SolidWorks">
<APPLICATION Label="SLDWORKS.exe" Name="Dassault Systemes SolidWorks"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits" Value="0x00024640" Default="0x00024640" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>

The profiles are stored in nvwsapps.xml, you can replace yours I suppose. Been a while since I've done that tough.

Stefan Hamminga
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CSWP/Mechanical designer
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[CorBlimeyLimey]

Thanks Stefan, I will attempt to mod the file later.

I've never messed with that file before. Any tips or advice on things to do ... or not to do?

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

OK, this is strange. The profile is in the nvwsapps.xml file, but is not showing up in the nVidia panel selection list.

<PROFILE Label="Dassault Systemes CATIA - compatible">
			<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits" Value="0x40020244" Default="0x40020244" Itemtype="predefined"/>
			<PROPERTY Label="ws_application_key" Value="0x0000000A" Default="0x0000000A" Itemtype="predefined"/>
			<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
		</PROFILE>
		<PROFILE Label="Dassault Systemes SolidWorks">
			<APPLICATION Label="SLDWORKS.exe" Name="Dassault Systemes SolidWorks"/>
			<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits" Value="0x00024640" Default="0x00024640" Itemtype="predefined"/>
			<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
			<PROPERTY Label="multi_mon_config" Value="0x00000007" Default="0x00000007" Itemtype="predefined"/>
		</PROFILE>

The only difference I can see is the last line regarding multi-monitors.

 

[AnnaWood]

CBL,

Remind me about this next week if I do not get back with you. My new system I am building this weekend will have Vista x64 and the FX570.

Will let you know after I build the computer.

Cheers,

Anna Wood
SW2008 SP4.0, Windows Vista SP1
IBM ThinkPad T61p, T7800, FX570M, 4 gigs of RAM

http://designsmarter.typepad.com/solidmuse

http://www.phxswug.com

 

[StefanHamminga]

Indeed, I compared both the latest driver and the official driver, both have "Value="0x00000002" instead of Value="0x00000007", so you might want to change that back to it's default, reboot and pray it works...

Did you downgrade to this driver by any chance?

Stefan Hamminga
EngIT Solutions
CSWP/Mechanical designer
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[CorBlimeyLimey]

Anna, ... OK, I will do that, thank you.


Stefan, ... Not sure I understand. Are you saying that I should change the values in the last line of the SolidWorks section

<PROPERTY Label="multi_mon_config" Value="0x00000007" Default="0x00000007" Itemtype="predefined"/>

to 0x00000002?

The code I posted is taken from the nvwsapps.xml file of the x64 system I'm having problems with.

Do you mean the latest driver and the official driver both have "Value="0x00000002" for the multi_monitor line?
Would that affect the nVidia panel list from displaying the Dassault Systemes SolidWorks profile?

BTW, the x64 system is only single monitor.

 

[StefanHamminga]

yes, that is what I'm saying, I downloaded both drivers, used 7zip to extract them (you can expand the nvwsapps.xm_ by opening the 'cmd', navigating to the folder you expanded the driver to and run 'expand nvwsapps.xm_ nvwsapps.xml') and opened their respective profile file.

I included the expanded one from the official driver in my first reply. No modifications made, straight from the official SW approved Vista64 driver.

I don't know how Nvidia's error handling works, but it could be the driver just skips profiles with unsupported values (eg. your multimonitor value), in any case it's worth a shot.

Stefan Hamminga
EngIT Solutions
CSWP/Mechanical designer
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[CorBlimeyLimey]

Stefan, I changed those values, but it made no difference. Thanks for the idea though. Definitely worth a try.

I used the approved driver (7.15.11.7551) from the SW site and the latest non-beta driver from nVidia. Did four clean un-installs and re-installs with AV paused, disabled and finally completely removed ... no change. The "Dassault Systemes SolidWorks" profile did not become available. Strange thing is, the nvwsapps.xml file always showed the SW proifle.

Anyway, I may have found at least part of the problem. The CATIA and general 3D App profiles I had been using, had the multi-monitor setting enabled. I've switched it to OFF and it appeared to have made a big difference in speed of loading SW (from ~3mins to less than 1 min). I didn't have time to stay and test stability and performance. The user of that machine can do that on Monday. I've had my fill of computer and software and user problems for this week.

 

[AnnaWood]

CBL,

It is entirely possible that there is no profile for SW anymore with the a current SW approved video driver. Not all the approved nvidia driver need this anymore.

The way you can tell is on the Approved Video Card List, in the icon column on the right, there is no red SW cube. this icon means that there will not be a SolidWorks profile in the video card settings.

This is the case for the Nvidia drivers for SW2008 & SW2009 for the FX570.

Cheers,

Anna Wood
SW2008 SP4.0, Windows Vista SP1
IBM ThinkPad T61p, T7800, FX570M, 4 gigs of RAM

http://designsmarter.typepad.com/solidmuse

http://www.phxswug.com

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

Anna,

Yeah, I had read that elsewhere. As Stefan posted above though, the profiles are included in the nvwsapps.xml file, but I guess that could just be a hangover from previous requirements. I should know more on Monday whether the most recent changes were effective.

How is your new computer shaping up?

 

[AnnaWood]

The new computer is shaping up well. I have core SolidWorks 2009 installed.

My first tests with the punch holder at stock settings (no over clock) are 57-58 seconds. It is the same rebuild time with and without hyper-threading enabled.

I forgot the password to set-up my VPN connection to the license server at work so I can't install PhotoView 360 yet. That is where I really want to test out the performance of the Core i7's 4 cores and 8 threads with hyper threading enabled.

I am a happy camper so far....

Cheers,

Anna Wood
SW2008 SP4.0, Windows Vista SP1
IBM ThinkPad T61p, T7800, FX570M, 4 gigs of RAM

http://designsmarter.typepad.com/solidmuse

http://www.phxswug.com