upgrade to 09

[grunt58]

The powers that be are considering not continuing our service packs for a few years. We have around 20 seats.

I have strongly suggested that we upgrade to SW 09 and SP1 before we let are subscription run out in the end of Nov.

I'm wondering if anyone has any articles on the benefits of 09. I know its faster and a better release from what I've read here but I need to prove that to management.
They don't care if we upgrade as long as I can prove 09 sp1 is a stable release and more beneficial/productive than staying where we are currently at.

Thanks for any help.


Grant
Applications Engineer
SW2008 X64 SP 3.1
Dell Precision T5400
Nvidia Quadro FX 5600
Xeon 2.5GHz Quad Core, 4GB RAM
XP Pro X64 SP2.0

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

The production release of SP1 is not yet available, so no-one knows how stable it is. All/most of the blog reviews report good overall stability and function for 09.

Only by doing a thorough in-house testing with your products, on your computers, will you be assured of its stability. What works for one does not necessarily work for another.

 

[ctopher]

There will always be users with or without stability issues. It depends on your hardware and how well your setup/download is managed.

Chris
SolidWorks/PDMWorks 08 3.1
AutoCAD 08
ctopher's home (updated Aug 5, 2008)
ctopher's blog
SolidWorks Legion

 

[Eltron]

...and the type of prescription medications that they are on.

If you have the '09 discs in hand, you can upgrade to sp0 at any point in the future. You can even just install it on one machine to do a comparison. As far as sp1 goes, like the Limey said, who knows when that will come out and in what condition it will be in.

Dan

http://www.eltronresearch.com

Dan's Blog

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

The production version of an SP is usually released 2 weeks after the EV release. (which was Oct 29) So if the usual schedule is kept, SP1 should be released next week.

 

[ctopher]

"...and the type of prescription medications that they are on"



Chris
SolidWorks/PDMWorks 08 3.1
AutoCAD 08
ctopher's home (updated Aug 5, 2008)
ctopher's blog
SolidWorks Legion

 

[grunt58]

My bad I thought the production version of sp1 is out not just the EV.

Yes I have already suggested that we install 09 on a spare machine which has our whole library and test. Our other division is testing on there end also.

I was just looking for data/articles backing up my knowledge that SW 09 is "bigger faster stronger". To support my insisting we ugrade to 09 before our subscription runs out. Baring our testing doesn't turn up any negatives.

Grant
Applications Engineer
SW2008 X64 SP 3.1
Dell Precision T5400
Nvidia Quadro FX 5600
Xeon 2.5GHz Quad Core, 4GB RAM
XP Pro X64 SP2.0

 

[rfus]

In my opinion, SW09 is like SW08 SP5. It fixed all that stuff that made 08 somewhat of a dog. I would rather be stuck on 07 than 08. 09 is the best release since 04 if you ask me.

rfus

 

[grunt58]

Wht doesn't SW do a "pay for the service pack" fee? Our VAR is not worth a yearly subcription but I do believe that the service packs are. Couldn't SW work out that if company X chooses not to have a maintinance contract they could pay $X per seat for a given service pack? Guess what im saying is why the heck can't one just "buy" a service pack. Heck they should be free as they are only fixing what SW f'd up...but thats another discussion....

Im sure that part of it is that they make more money off the maint contracts.

Grant
Applications Engineer
SW2008 X64 SP 3.1
Dell Precision T5400
Nvidia Quadro FX 5600
Xeon 2.5GHz Quad Core, 4GB RAM
XP Pro X64 SP2.0

 

[Eltron]

You'll find that we already went through that one, too:

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=224246&page=14

Dan

http://www.eltronresearch.com

Dan's Blog

 

[rockguy]

So far 2009 SP 1.0 EV has been rock solid for me.

Rob Rodriguez CSWP

http://www.axiscadsolutions.com

http://www.robrodriguez.com

http://designsmarter.typepad.com/rob_rodriguez/

Eastern Region SWUGN Representative

http://www.swugn.org

http://www.nvtswug.com

SW 2007 SP 2.0

 

[EdDanzer]

We have chosen to never update SolidWorks after not having an SPR fixed or addressed in over two years. The company my son works for was using 2008 and had him install 2009. I took hours and required rolling the video drives back to be able to use it. My definition of a POS.

We are strongly considering moving to SpaceClaim.

Ed Danzer

http://www.danzcoinc.com

http://www.dehyds.com

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

I had all sorts of problems when installing onto a Vista x64 system, but that was caused by the Kaspersky AV suite.

On my home and work machine (XP x32), uninstalling SW2008 and installing SW2009 (from the DVD) took about 1.5 hrs. Deleting the old video driver and installing the new took about 15 minutes. No big deal!

What were your SPRs concerning?

 

[p2000]

2009 SP1.0 was released today officially

 

[fcsuper]

I would suggest upgrading to 2009 first. You'll be entitled to any serve packages for 2009, particularly if your subscription is paid for the next year, and if timed correctly, may be able to get the DVD for 2010 before your subscription is up. That way, you can leverage your position to make sure you are compatiable for a long time should going to 2010 be a requirement at any time during your blackout period. That said, once you have 2010 in your possession, you can still weasle service package out of your VAR even if you aren't current on the subs.

Matt Lorono
CAD Engineer/ECN Analyst
Silicon Valley, CA
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources
Co-moderator of Solidworks Yahoo! Group
and Mechnical.Engineering Yahoo! Group

 

[Standing]

Matt,
We have our 2009 DVD's and our plan is to stop subscriptions in May of 2009. How does one go about getting service packages out of our VAR even if we are not current on the subs?


Bradley
SolidWorks Pro 2008 x64, SP5.0
PDMWorks Workgroup, SolidWorks BOM,
HP xw8600,
64-bit Windows Vista Business
Service Pack 1
Intel Xeon CPU, 3.00 GHz, 16 GB RAM, Virtual memory 166682 MB,
nVidia Quadro FX 4600

 

[JMirisola]

Bradley,
Unless it's a critical fix, you're only entitled to the SP's available up to termination of your maintenance. This has been a point of contention with users for a while. If you can prove that a later SP will fix issues you're having, you'll be able to get it otherwise you're SOL in most cases.

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP, Certified DriveWorks AE

http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

 

[AnnaWood]

Bradley,

If you are planning to stop sub's in May of 2009 we will all be thinking about SW2010. SW2009 will be at about SP3 or SP4. I think you will be fine if you leave SW at about SP3 or SP4 of any release.

Cheers,

Anna Wood
SW2008 SP4.0, Windows Vista SP1
IBM ThinkPad T61p, T7800, FX570M, 4 gigs of RAM

http://designsmarter.typepad.com/solidmuse

http://www.phxswug.com