Typical Details

[strguy11]

Curious on how other firms have construct their typical detail libraries...

In the details themselves, do you have "user notes" that tell people the items that need to be reviewed/checked (such as weld sizes, etc) and notes to the applicability of the detail or things to consider when using?

I can see pluses and minuses of doing this sort of things. I was always taught that the detail are "a starting point" just so that things dont get re-drafted or started from scratch, however i have seen that the younger generation seems to just slap these details on the drawings without even looking at them or giving them much thought.

Curious as to how other firms handle this and if its worth going through the effort of creating notes as described. My concern is that if this was done, those items would be the only things checked, but unless the list is comprehensive (which would take so long to create), those would be the only items that are checked. Which i guess is better than nothing, but it still doesn't solve the issue....

What are you all doing?

 

[skeletron]

If it is a "Typical Detail" then you are really only benefitting from not having to draw the thing from scratch. All the callouts are pretty much fair game to change and adjust. Some firms have most of the callouts as "refer to schedule" or "refer to plans" which makes the maintenance on the detail much less. The tradeoff is that you are putting the onus on the designer/contractor to do their own coordination, which can actually be slower than just calling out the spec on the detail.

There are details that you can probably just slap on a drawing without much checking, but you would likely have already run that detail through the gauntlet of checks or it represents a sort of "capture all situation" type detail that doesn't ever really change. I have a couple notes on some of my details, but more or less that is a "point in time" type reference and not a checklist for design. It's a good idea in theory, but AutoCAD probably isn't the best medium for that and it would be better suited for a design checklist or "engineering manual" type document.

 

[strguy11]

If it is a "Typical Detail" then you are really only benefitting from not having to draw the thing from scratch. All the callouts are pretty much fair game to change and adjust. Some firms have most of the callouts as "refer to schedule" or "refer to plans" which makes the maintenance on the detail much less. The tradeoff is that you are putting the onus on the designer/contractor to do their own coordination, which can actually be slower than just calling out the spec on the detail.

There are details that you can probably just slap on a drawing without much checking, but you would likely have already run that detail through the gauntlet of checks or it represents a sort of "capture all situation" type detail that doesn't ever really change. I have a couple notes on some of my details, but more or less that is a "point in time" type reference and not a checklist for design. It's a good idea in theory, but AutoCAD probably isn't the best medium for that and it would be better suited for a design checklist or "engineering manual" type document.

Thanks. Plus if everything gets stripped out and put "x" in for placeholders, my guess is eventually people will just save thier own copies and edit them once so they dont have to again, and then we'll be in the same position.

 

[dik]

I had two different types of standard details... the ones that showed information like a stepped down footing. It could be applied to a drawing without modification.

The other type of standard detail might be a drawing sheet with an 'L' shaped stiffened slab foundation for a house. This would include all information for the foundation, including notes. The second sheet would contain the other type of standard detail showing corner reinforcing, slab sections, saw cuts information, etc.

When I got an 'L' shaped house, I would stretch the CAD drawing to the dimensions of the new house so all the dimensions worked. It would take me an hour to provide complete, 'new' house drawings for the project. In addition to the 'L' shape, I had rectangular, 'T' shaped, etc. standard house slab plans.