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a sign of things to come... hold on to your hats, folks.
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I'm not interested in what it doesn't do... I'm more interested in what it does. Is it like an expression, "an ill wind...?"
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I just noticed that parts of California and Arizona are on the low 40Cs... I know they have high temperatures down there, but this may be a harbinger of the future.
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dik, a northerly or northwesterly wind in Melbourne brings hot air from the red centre in summer, November to March. It can be up to 50C out there, as ever it was. No reason for preaching the doomsday gospel. But if you want to know what the weather is in Melbourne, it is extremely variable. Four seasons in a day.
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Thanks hokie... and nice to know about Melbourne... Calgary, in Canada, is like that. As far as doomsday goes, I hope not, but I can imagine some not so pleasant things coming up, and no one seems to be concerned. I don't usually overreact; it might be my age or the onset of senility.
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...not in my neighbourhood. They will have a future, it might just be a whole bunch different. The potential is horrendous... substantially high populated areas with extremely high temperatures, running out of water for drinking and crops, mass starvation. These could have serious political impacts.
Travel and transportation still remains essentially the same. You have dozens of politicians, celebrities, and people, world wide, jetting around the world, doing stuff that can be handled by video conference. This includes the world climate guys. There can be some really big issues. In an extreme, can you imagine the effects, if the US runs out of arable land and water, and Canada has a large supply of both? It might not be pretty.
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
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My niece, a working PhD in zoology, when informed I was going up to Port Douglas to snorkel on the Great Barrier Reef, said "But isn't it all dead?"
That is an example of the extent to which the political scum have indoctrinated our children, even the scientifically literate ones. When we have an El Nino/La Nina switch a great glob of cold water rushes down the east coast, and kills many of the more colorful warm water coral jelly like objects that live in the holes in the hard coral rock, and are replaced by cooler water tolerant organisms next season. They work their way north, until there's a switch the other way, they die off and the warm ones recolonise. Each time this happens the loons at James Cook Univeristy release another survey showing massive changes in coral coverage, claiming it is the death of the GBR.
This is separate to crown of thorns starfish, which eat any flavor of coral. They've been an intermittent issue since at least the 60s. One possible cause is overfishing of the predator seashell Triton, and there are theories about agricultural nutrient run off as well. Since they are also an issue in Vanuatu (not exactly an agricultural hotspot) the latter seems a bit unlikely.
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That is an example of the extent to which the political scum have indoctrinated our children, even the scientifically literate ones. When we have an El Nino/La Nina switch a great glob of cold water rushes down the east coast, and kills many of the more colorful warm water coral jelly like objects that live in the holes in the hard coral rock, and are replaced by cooler water tolerant organisms next season. They work their way north, until there's a switch the other way, they die off and the warm ones recolonise. Each time this happens the loons at James Cook Univeristy release another survey showing massive changes in coral coverage, claiming it is the death of the GBR.
This is separate to crown of thorns starfish, which eat any flavor of coral. They've been an intermittent issue since at least the 60s. One possible cause is overfishing of the predator seashell Triton, and there are theories about agricultural nutrient run off as well. Since they are also an issue in Vanuatu (not exactly an agricultural hotspot) the latter seems a bit unlikely.
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Wow... thanks Greg. You've pointed out one of the major problems with climate change. You, myself, and most of the readers of this website are well aware that the Great Barrier Reef is not dead; it is simply 'dying' or deteriorating due to heat, etc. The fact that a Ph.D canditate, particularly in zoology was not aware of that, speaks volumes about the failed education system.
In addition to attack from preditors, overfishing, acidification, pollution and bleaching caused by heat, the reef is under attack, and portions of it are already 'dead'. The jury still out if it can be resuscitated.
The 'political scum' have taken advantage of the failure in education, just as the proponents of fossil fuels and coal have taken advantage of their position to promote their products. Australia still promotes their coal production. Australia's carbon footprint is 17.1 T/person. With the exception of a few small countries, this is right near the top. Australia tops the US. Canada is higher and for other reasons (our climate has a bit of an impact on that). Recent Numbers:
Much maligned, China, has half the carbon footprint of the US, and India has about 1/10, when looking at the per capita values. The fault lies not only with the snakeoil salesmen (women?) but with the failed government and the education system.
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
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In addition to attack from preditors, overfishing, acidification, pollution and bleaching caused by heat, the reef is under attack, and portions of it are already 'dead'. The jury still out if it can be resuscitated.
The 'political scum' have taken advantage of the failure in education, just as the proponents of fossil fuels and coal have taken advantage of their position to promote their products. Australia still promotes their coal production. Australia's carbon footprint is 17.1 T/person. With the exception of a few small countries, this is right near the top. Australia tops the US. Canada is higher and for other reasons (our climate has a bit of an impact on that). Recent Numbers:
Much maligned, China, has half the carbon footprint of the US, and India has about 1/10, when looking at the per capita values. The fault lies not only with the snakeoil salesmen (women?) but with the failed government and the education system.
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
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dik,
That is a classical twisting of someone else's post to suit your agenda. The GBR is neither dead or threatened, and if Greg's zoologist niece were not indoctrinated by the Green alarmists, she would know that. And yes, Australia and many other countries will continue to rely on fossil fuel and coal for the balance of this century, and probably well into the next, until nuclear power becomes more acceptable to the misguided left, or the 'political scum' as Greg so aptly describes them. No matter how many 'zero emissions targets' they propose, the are whistling in the wind.
That is a classical twisting of someone else's post to suit your agenda. The GBR is neither dead or threatened, and if Greg's zoologist niece were not indoctrinated by the Green alarmists, she would know that. And yes, Australia and many other countries will continue to rely on fossil fuel and coal for the balance of this century, and probably well into the next, until nuclear power becomes more acceptable to the misguided left, or the 'political scum' as Greg so aptly describes them. No matter how many 'zero emissions targets' they propose, the are whistling in the wind.
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I don't have an agenda... and there are numerous reports that the GBR is threatened.
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
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GregLocock
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That article didn't even bother joining the dots. Random talking points.
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or...
Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
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Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?
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It's complicated, and can't be explained in a few pages. If you are really interested, watch this video, or if you can get access to Dr. Peter Ridd's book, that might shed a different light on your opinion. Or maybe we just wait until Greg comes back to report on the observations of his dives.
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and another... connecting the dots seems to be going the wrong way... how many more to connect before anyone realises there is a 'real' problem and the reef is 'sick', and slowly dying. It's going to take a lot of work to restore the parts of it that can be.
There's so much of it that it is possible for Greg to visit a relatively healthy part of it. If I were to be diving at the reef, I'd choose a beautiful spot, rather than a 'bleached' spot.
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There's so much of it that it is possible for Greg to visit a relatively healthy part of it. If I were to be diving at the reef, I'd choose a beautiful spot, rather than a 'bleached' spot.
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Aerial surveys are akin to looking at a person's head to determine if their brain is healthy. Only the reef ridges are examined, and that is not the important part. But that site does show that Australia is concerned about the reef, and doing its best to look after it. Now if only the rest of the world would mind its own knitting...
And I suppose that the fact that I can't fix a broken stereo is likewise due to a "failed education system" because I'm an EE? I don't suppose anyone bothered to ask this PhD candidate what her specialty was?
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Her thesis was to do with the altruism of crows, feeding each others young. Her fieldwork has been on all sorts of animal behaviours. I don't now what her actual job is.
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It is not that Greg's niece is a specialist in anything, but rather that she has been duped into thinking the Great Barrier Reef is all dead. She is a "working PhD" not a PhD candidate, so should have a certain amount of accurate information about the world around.
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