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Things are Starting to Warm Up Part III 6
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There's a real downside to that... a lot of other species may go... and conditions on earth may never be the same to create life, again. That may be beneficial. I don't know if it will happen, only that there is a reasonable chance.
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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What happens when the temperatures in the southern states are +60C, and their water is gone? A little short sighted, I would suggest.
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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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Ken McLachlan, an electrical engineer, from the University of Southampton, I knew aluded to that nearly 60 years back when on one of his tapes on cybernetics he mentioned that we may already be on the Slippery Slope down.
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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It's melting... I wonder when it will stop?
and changing borders, to boot...
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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and changing borders, to boot...
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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Canada usually doesn't settle things in court... we'll see where this goes... maybe something for the Americans to get involved with:
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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...maybe even heat up?
Maybe people are starting to act?
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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Maybe people are starting to act?
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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Guest102023
Materials
I'm picturing little 7-year old Tug arguing with his Sunday School teacher about what really went down with the Lord and Noah, in detailed technical terms, including the climate change weather report for that day in history.
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"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"
"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"
TugboatEng
Marine/Ocean
Hey, I met this guy at MIT once.
He gave a lecture for those of us who don't care for sensationalism:
He gave a lecture for those of us who don't care for sensationalism:
and once again we can't get any where near engineering solutions.
dik, I get the passion you have for this, but AFAICR no one is saying "stop burning FFs", 'cause the impact is certainly enormous against the possibility of extinction. If the "cure" is going to kill off 90% of us, I don't think many would go for it. Maybe the disease will kill off 90% of us ?
Of a certainty weather/climate things (storms, rainfall patterns, temperature, etc) are going to change in the future ... maybe more than in the past and maybe not ... we'll have to wait and see.
We don't even know what to address (hence we can't formulate any reasonable responses).
Maybe the ice caps will melt ... maybe, maybe not ? Maybe they'll melt as the weather patterns around the poles change (and no longer trap the cold air in the poles).
Maybe CO2 is the root of our demise, maybe it's something else. My money is still on "civil unrest".
Remember too we are part of the natural world. Maybe this is our role to play ? Mess about with FFs, go extinct, and let cockroaches and twinkie bars rule the world.
I suspect that the politics will play out. We'll do some actions to mitigate some of the affects. These will probably change decade by decade as political parties in power change and want to do something different than their predecessor. At random times we'll do nothing ... the people sick and tired of taxes will vote in a "denier" party on a "reduce taxes" and "trim the fat" ticket.
Write all the essays you like, it is good for your soul. I suspect that trying to get people to see your "obvious" "facts" will on the most part be frustrating.
@TBE, solar cells don't generate waste heat, so maybe a good source ? Similarly geothermal. Hydro is pretty efficient. I agree nukes create a lot of waste heat, that yes could be recovered
"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
dik, I get the passion you have for this, but AFAICR no one is saying "stop burning FFs", 'cause the impact is certainly enormous against the possibility of extinction. If the "cure" is going to kill off 90% of us, I don't think many would go for it. Maybe the disease will kill off 90% of us ?
Of a certainty weather/climate things (storms, rainfall patterns, temperature, etc) are going to change in the future ... maybe more than in the past and maybe not ... we'll have to wait and see.
We don't even know what to address (hence we can't formulate any reasonable responses).
Maybe the ice caps will melt ... maybe, maybe not ? Maybe they'll melt as the weather patterns around the poles change (and no longer trap the cold air in the poles).
Maybe CO2 is the root of our demise, maybe it's something else. My money is still on "civil unrest".
Remember too we are part of the natural world. Maybe this is our role to play ? Mess about with FFs, go extinct, and let cockroaches and twinkie bars rule the world.
I suspect that the politics will play out. We'll do some actions to mitigate some of the affects. These will probably change decade by decade as political parties in power change and want to do something different than their predecessor. At random times we'll do nothing ... the people sick and tired of taxes will vote in a "denier" party on a "reduce taxes" and "trim the fat" ticket.
Write all the essays you like, it is good for your soul. I suspect that trying to get people to see your "obvious" "facts" will on the most part be frustrating.
@TBE, solar cells don't generate waste heat, so maybe a good source ? Similarly geothermal. Hydro is pretty efficient. I agree nukes create a lot of waste heat, that yes could be recovered
"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
TugboatEng
Marine/Ocean
Solar cells reduce albedo so they aren't exactly free in terms of heat.
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I came across an article tonight that indicates that after mass extinctions, the resulting critters are faster, better and more able to adapt. My apologies, sir...
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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No passion... just a pile of potentials, and many of them not good. I'll have shed my mortal coils before this takes off; I may experience a little of it. What I've seen so far is in keeping with what I understand.
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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I don't know what this means... it could be good. Based on past experience, I'm not so sure.
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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TugboatEng
Marine/Ocean
Farmers know it, you can't do the same thing year after year. A little mass extinction is good for the health of their fields. They call it "crop rotation"
Nature thrives on cycles.
Nature thrives on cycles.
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Sorry Tug... mass extinction is a little different than crop rotation. With commercial growers, crop rotation is practiced less and less.
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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...the show must go on:
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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How the Jet Stream affects temperatures:
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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a sign of the times, and it could get a lot worse:
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates
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LionelHutz
Electrical
Tomfh - I think your comments are reasonable. I tend to agree, expecting to "be green" in 10-20 years is completely unreasonable. It simply can't be done without massive and total world upheaval.
On the lighter side, if anyone wants to keep throwing out politicospeak for how to solve this mess then it should include calls for inventing a Star Trek like transporter. That combined with fusion power would solve all the worlds transportation CO2 emissions.
On the lighter side, if anyone wants to keep throwing out politicospeak for how to solve this mess then it should include calls for inventing a Star Trek like transporter. That combined with fusion power would solve all the worlds transportation CO2 emissions.
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